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As you probably have noticed we have added a Stats page to our site and that we've been gaining a lot of users lately: https://read.cash/stats
4910... π So-o-o-on..... Big step soon. What's even more interesting is that the number of points given in any day is skyrocketing and due to that the point price has been dropping:
So, we've decided to take a look at what exactly users are getting points for:
15000 points for publishing articles! 15000 points for 10 thumbs up? 300 articles got 10 thumbs up or more? Well, these must be very good articles! (sarcasm) No, of course, they are not. However, as usual, we've been quietly working on something, while enduring more and more waves of "why aren't you doing something"? We'll leave problem of vote manipulation for tomorrow or maybe later today... we have a solution, but not ready to tell about it yet. So, we don't usually announce in advance what exactly we're working on, only that we have a plan, so now that it's ready - **we have a new original content detector!** This one is able to find a lot of copied stuff, even in other languages, even in comments and posts:
And it can tell you even how big of a chunk did the user take:
Wow, 100% copied in Bangla language! Bad user! How about this now?
Yep, that's a thing now. If you have copied a big chunk of text from the Internet, we won't be giving you any points for this. Happy spamming! For now it's only about articles, but soon comments, posts and parts copied from read.cash too. And we'll see you, vote manipulators, soon... Also, sorry that we're down lately - we're growing too fast and our server gets a bit too crowded for us. We'll deal with it too.
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I am quite oblivious to the whole scammer spammer thing. I just try to get articles submitted to the right communities and try not to be too strict in the vetting process, as I don't want to have only professionals getting paid here, but also people to be motivated to grow. If there is anything I can improve or anything I can do to mitigate vote manipulation in my communities, please tell me so. I cannot tell how much I am actually helping scammers right now. If there is one, feel free to point them out. And yes. The site is going down every now and then, I was suspecting it's because it's going viral. Glad to see those stats. KUDOS!
No, it's ok, you are free to moderate communities as you see fit. There is no way for you to detect vote manipulation on your own (sometimes it's obvious, when a user has nothing but +20 aricles on his account, no matter how stupid articles are, sometimes it's well hidden, but we'll deal with it in due time).
Finally some good news π. I have seen many articles as useless as a net to stop water from leaking π. π
I did republish my work here and it is really possible that you can see my published article on some other internet sites amd social media. Would that still consider as spamming? It is still mine. And, I guess because of that, I have not given points in my comments and some others. I am a bit sad.
Wow. Kudos read.cash team. It is really a good update. What you are doing is the best to maintain this platforms quality. This is not just an earning site. It is a platform that prioritizes learning specially about BCH and really engaging. Not just points farming. Good job ππ
Good job. The next step could be to ban the spammers from the homepage. The statistics are very interesting, but I can't find a link to them on my smartphone. If you hadn't written it, I wouldn't have known they existed.
Press on the hamburger menu (three lines)
Thanx
These are very much anticipated. Thanks for working on this. Do you have a timeline of when these will be rolled out?
20 minutes ago :)
Terrific! Thank you!
Good job! To get rid of this things is such a relieve, but what if it detects some quotation I used to an article but I didnt really copy it? Is that still plagiarize or not?
If the quote is more than 40% of your article - then yes :)
Oh thank god I didn't use those word, thanks for this
Amazing. Kudos to these hardworking peeps behind read.cash. I was not bothered by the system error earlier. It's a sign that the site has traffic and it's good to know you are already working on it. I have 1 community that I moderate and tried to check the OC checker and it was really cool. I really take time to read the articles I need to approve so the OC checker is really a huge help. Thanks Read.cash! π And congratulations! Almost 5k users! π₯³π₯³π₯³
Thank you! π₯³π₯³
This is very well done. It means that the creators and admins are really want to have a very nice and clean platform for every users and newcomers. Thank you for keeping this platform a good platform. I hope that spams in homepage will be giveN Attention too.
Hey! All of my articles will be from this site https://www.publish0x.com/dreamer93/ That is my link and my work. How could that possibly be a spam? I don't get it. It doesn't mean it was found on the internet then it is not ours. It's mine. Would there be any lee ways? I want to republish it here.
Hi @JasmineC you can add the publishOx link below the article that you wrote in read.cash.
I can add but still it could be counted as spam.
Note that we don't really count it as spam, we only send a private message to you about it.
Thanks for clarifying. I am just worried. I have been writing for 15 years and writing in this platforms is out of exploring another way and I don't like to be tag as if like plagiarizing some works. Even if I hide in different pen names depending to what genre I am writing I am still careful and my apilogies for being sensitive.
cc @Ghostcat 1) All this update means is that **we** (read.cash) won't be paying from our fund for the content that's already been published somewhere, because by republishing you are damaging our website reputation for search engines (duplicate content), so we won't pay for it. 2) There is no way for us to prove that you are who claim to be. As I demonstrated here: https://rcimg.net/images/c4bd5de3/WGozgLdJM3D0Vs1NlOmatef0Z31QeDkZzSWDxp9K.png anyone can claim rights to republish and we don't have hordes of people to research and verify these claims. I can easily register account "dreamer93" and claim that I'm the real "dreamer93" and that you are an impostor... We would need tons of people doing police-like work investigating these claims.
Totally agree with this. I want to see the fund rewarding people who publish exclusive original content on read.cash. That's what brings the most value to this site and should be rewarded accordingly.
I understand that, but citations is enough to prove it that it's ours. However, I cannot argue with it. I don't seem to want the reward that much, what I am just claiming is the sense of ownership. What if I put my links in there, still not counted? I just feel that I lost ownership to something I owned.
You have to understand that as soon as we say "citation is enough to prove your the owner" - we'll be full of people claiming to be THAT author of that post on Facebook they just copied. A few months ago we told that block quotes would be excluded from copy-paste detection - now we have [full articles](https://read.cash/@soyed/-0ecf130e) posing as quotes from [multiple](https://read.cash/@Safwan/-73f6061e) [authors](https://read.cash/@Nurbegum/-13961e8d). Don't underestimate people in pursuit of a quick buck - they'll be posing your content (with a link to you, claiming to be you) in no time.
I understand. Alright then.
Hi I had some articles of mine that got points removed for being found on another site. The problem is that I am the original author, IΒ΄m just republishing here Here is my link : https://www.publish0x.com/@Ghostcat Is there a solution for non-spammers who are just crossposting from other sites?
See my response for @JasmineC
thanks for clarifying.
Finally a good move, the spam has been getting real annoying these days. Like, some people copied comments from the same article they posted them in! It's so blatant and shameless. Back when I joined and the site was newer, this stuff never happened. Hopefully at some point we will be able to go back to a cleaner community like that one before.
> some people copied comments from the same article That's for another day :) we still don't detect this.
Today I felt ashamed for my Bengali Community. Shame of them. I have seen so many copied post and I reported them. There are so many posts which are copied from book and Facebook page. I would like to request to Read.cash to block the ip address of the spammer. So that they can't enter the site again.
It's not really possible. VPNs are $3/month or less and they have millions of IP addresses and there are even tons of free proxies. Don't be ashamed, there are bad apples in every community.
Thanks for the comment about bad apple. It is not really a matter of shame because people lack ideas but want to do something for earnings. I think they are here for necessity. But ofcourse it is not right to copy and they should be warned for that. So that they don't do it again and try to do something better.
I totally understand the need to earn, but frankly - there are tons of communities, just participate in discussion, you'll be rewarded. No need to make it bad for everyone by annoying people with copy-paste.
Thanks for giving us the information.
100% of your article "BCH Clear Path: Freedom!" was found on the Internet, therefore you won't get any points for publishing it I have this notificaion about my last article. Why?
1) Read the article 2) See this comment https://read.cash/@Read.Cash/non-exclusive-content-bb28a945#comment-c40c5b4b
I posted my articles first in Read.cash and repost part of them in reddit, and redirect a link from reddit to this site, you can review it.
(For anyone reading it, we discussed the bug via email and the bug was fixed)
Thank you! π
This is a good development. I cherish it a lot. It will sanitise the spamming menace in read.cash. Kudos for this.
Hahhaha. Plagiarism detectors are awesome. The zombies will be awaken πππ ππππ here is the sun shining brightly.
Bravo read.cash. I'm sure this will improve the average quality here. If those copy pasters will not gain anything by posting, they will either taking the trouble to write themselves or simply leave. I must admit that seeing more than 20 thumbs up for two, short, obviously plagiarized paragraphs yesterday, at that on top of "hot" (apart from boosted articles), made me wonder what I am doing here. I will be looking forward to a more honest environment.
Thanks! Yeah, we noticed it too, but this all takes too much time to figure out and to code.
Really good
Well you are right. You are working very silently haha. The result looks very interesting tho. I'm expecting way less spam using this new tool. By the way, was that user who copied everything in bangali banned? Just curious.
No, we can't ban people just because their text appears somewhere, they **could** still be the original author for all we know. And we can't really deal with nearly 5000 users on a case-by-case basis (and the number is growing daily), so we need automatic rules that discourage bad behavior, but we can't automatically ban people based on our guesses. Bans are applied only for provable offences (like, for example, for personal attacks on other people or posting obviously illegal material). Also, frankly, bans solve nothing. The user can register a new account in about a minute :)
Fair enough. I was just curious to know what happened to him/her. Thank you for your replay!
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