Hive Vs Medium: Which Writing Platform Is The Best?

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Medium and Hive (Leo Finance) Comparison

The difference between Medium and Hive is vast and clear, even for cryptocurrency content.

I formulated my opinion regarding Hive (Leo Finance) one year ago and expressed my thoughts on the matter many times in the past.

Socializing may be the approach for some writers to find followers, but I’d rather comment when I see fit and prefer followers who value reading my posts.

Moreover, I find it difficult to comment and socialize when SplinterlandsHive/Leo-related meta-content, and Cub Finance content covers 90% of the top daily articles at Leo Finance.

Usually, articles promoted at the top of the page are unfinished and hastily written while somehow receiving hundreds of likes from bots running wild on the platform.

Sure, there are also honest writers at Hive, not just looking for the bots to reward them but placing quality first on their preferences. In regards to Leo Finance, this is the situation, though.

Why Do I Post on Medium?

Two weeks ago, I republished one of my posts at Hive:

BRACE YOURSELF! 140,000 Bitcoins are About To FLOOD The Market!!

I originally published this article on Medium, but it could have been read.cash as well. I mix these two platforms considering the views my articles receive lately, but I don't think it makes a difference.

A friendly Hive user asked me a question that initially disappointed me further since my time with Hive was always a bummer.

I barely get any comments at Hive besides the read.cash fam (the friends active on that platform), so this one was a surprise.

Limited interactions (from real people) is also one of the reasons I don't publish at Hive but only republish stuff, which I guess was the actual question. Why Medium and not Hive?

In the past, I posted (even) exclusive content at Hive, but there was no difference. Nobody cared either.

I responded politely and thoroughly since this comment deserved it:

Medium articles can keep getting interactions for years. At least some of my articles from last year still receive likes and comments.

Payments don't stop either, and old articles can begin trending again.

The system is not biased. Articles with the most reading time receive equal rewards. 

At Hive, how does it work? What the whales like receive more rewards. It's all centralized and up to a few users to decide.

With Medium, it is the users that decide. 

Medium uses a similar system to YouTube promoting articles for a selected time to retrieve data from various content and writers.

With time writers get more subscribers and referrals and don't depend on Medium recommending their work.

Same as with YouTube, success comes and goes easy. 

I haven't been successful in securing a monthly revenue other writers have, but I value the fact I got some subscribers and referrals, and sometimes my articles do well.

Results After Twenty Days

Stats don't lie but instead expose the outliers.

Results from both Hive (Leo) and Medium considering the views and earnings of the particular article mentioned above:

Medium:

Hive (Leo Finance):

Out of the 34 likes at Hive, perhaps thirty were bots that automatically upvoted this post. I do not know how bots work at Hive or why sometimes they upvote altogether, but I can only suspect.

One thing I know is that I prefer authentic interactions.

These are not real viewers or real likes. Out of the 34 likes in this post, I'd guess four or five were real viewers, and maybe fewer than that read my content.

Medium, besides the views, also provides the number of reads for each post, which is the number of viewers that read the entire content.

Medium uses algorithms that decide if a user reads the whole content with high precision.

12% read ratio is not exactly great yet Medium analyzes stats further to proceed with payments to partners:

So, this article made it to 33 hours of total reading time by Medium members and more than 1800 views. Moreover, the individual payments are divided daily depending on the total daily time users spend reading articles.

With Hive (Leo), the results are identical every time I used this platform. There are no readers, limited interactions, low rewards, and not even statistics matter since views or reading time are not visible.

Credible stats matter.

Reading time from Medium members that paid for a subscription is the top one that matters. Medium counts all views and reads, but only pays for the reading time from Medium subscribers.

Certainly the stats at Medium are considered credible. Hive, doesn't even present such stats, though.

Regarding other platforms, read.cash also provides credible stats in terms of views for each article, but the same can't be said for Publish0x, where even a page refresh by the author of the post is counted as a view.

In Conclusion

Medium is a top writing platform. Professional writers use it, and high-profile authors visit. A dedicated cryptocurrency userbase is looking for answers and finds them there.

The top two writing platforms every writer should be using are Medium and read.cash.

Until a few months ago, I had enough free time to write and read articles.

Right now, I don't, and I'm sorry for that. I tip read.cash users, I follow, and sometimes I will read some articles I find interesting, but I got some exams soon, and studying has intensified lately. Moreover, I will have a second exam by the end of the year, and I've already reduced the rate of publishing new content.

Success in any of these exams will give me valuable points to get a decent job, which I will not suffer or blame myself everyday like my previous ones.

So, I can barely write an article every two or three days since last month.

That being said, I love spending any remaining free time on read.cash, and Medium, but it will be less than previously.

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Usually hivers only engage on old hivers and post are usually automatically tipped by whales if they like the writer. It doesn't matter if the content is really good or not.

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1 year ago

I think both are good but it really depends on the demographics. A good number of Hive authors are from non-native English speaking countries like Venezuela, Philippines, India and others. Most of them don't have access to Stripe or can't pay the subscription. I think Hive appeals more to people in developing countries because of it's accessibility (in terms of payment or withdrawal method) and the lower requirement for the mastery of the English language.

Medium is undoubtedly the winner if we compare the quality of content though. There's also good content in Hive but if we randomly select an article from both platforms and compare them Medium would most likely be the winner. Medium is a great platform for professionals and experts. I think there's more growth potential there for them as writers.

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1 year ago

This was a response to the question a Hive user asked about a certain article I republished at Hive. The result was 1800 views and 300 reads on Medium with 33 hours of reading time and 77 dollars received so far as payment.

While at Hive, the result was some cents and 30 bot likes.

I wrote this article because I think far too many in Hive don't realize the pointless system they created that doesn't value content but opportunistic attitudes intead. They just don't understand where they failed or why. Probably don't even understand Hive has failed miserably. Plenty of people are living in a bubble cut off from reality.

When I received that comment, I was astonished at the arguments made, since that guy had it all wrong thinking Hive is some kind of ultimate platform for writers while in fact, it is serious crap instead.

I will republish it at Hive and Medium, although I don't expect much from this one. It was made mostly to set things straight.

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1 year ago

You got a point and you have a first hand experience from both platforms so I'm not in a position to criticize. But what I knew is that we all have different circumstances. You're a great author and you write exceptional content which is most likely true. The overwhelming response from Medium is more than enough proof of that. Hive gave you some cents and 30 bot likes and that's also a fact.

But does it mean that all exceptional authors are not appreciated in Hive, and only those who suck up to Whales earn big $$$ ?

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1 year ago

But does it mean that all exceptional authors are not appreciated in Hive, and only those who suck up to Whales earn big $$$ ?

I think so, yes.

I'm just an average writer, though. The Hive users publish unfinished articles since they know nobody will read them. Yet, they will get upvotes nonetheless.

Read.cash has amazing writers that are far better, and on Medium, there are at least a thousand better than me just on the topic of cryptocurrency. I just feel that anything I publish at Hive is a lost cause.

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1 year ago

I have not used medium before but I thing the way they pay is quite different from hive. Unlike hive which upvote, medium do not with the way I have seen it to be. I think they tip. Those who have used hive for so long would prefer to stay glued to hive instead of medium. I could see that you get more attention on medium and read.cash than on hive. So people like you would preferred these two to hive.

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1 year ago

medium do not with the way I have seen it to be. I think they tip.

They have a curators but mostly the reading time is what matters.

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1 year ago

I had never heard about medium, it catches my attention because Hive has never been to my liking, really, so it makes me very happy to know that there is another platform through which I can experiment. Hey, how difficult is it to be successful on that platform?

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1 year ago

You made a very huge point there and I can tell what it's engaging on Hive, it can be tougher when you don't have the big boys support but there are ways to get attention and that's one of the reasons why I participate in contests a lot and it gives visibility to my post.

I wish I could buy lots of Hive someday so I can help lots of users who ain't getting the right attention for their awesome articles. That would be a big achievement for me, there are very good people there as well.

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1 year ago

It gives insightful reviews and comparisons of Leo Finance and Medium.

Does Leo Finance ban bloggers from writing questions on COVID and vaccines?

Unfortunately Medium does!

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1 year ago

I have never heard of this ban on Medium. I not only write and publish on Medium, but I also edit a couple of Medium publications. Would you please show where you got your information?

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1 year ago

@JonicaBradley It is not a ban on Medium. In fact, Medium bans bloggers for writing questions on the experimental COVID jabs! You can't see the banned blogger, because they are censored, and not viewable by the public! I came to know it from a blogger friend!

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1 year ago

I do not believe this at all. For a while, Medium was not paying money for stories on Covid. It is possible your blogger friend was not distributed by Medium. I have never heard of someone being banned for writing about covid. Plagiarism, though, yeah. That'll get you banned.

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1 year ago

No need to believe. But, it is TRUE.

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1 year ago

I might look on medium

And yeah hive sometimes lack genuine interactions...based on a week being there

But they say you cannot cross post anymore on hive?

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1 year ago

Thanks for the eye opener, but I have a question can I repost my articles here I n readcash to medium?

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1 year ago

Yes, Medium has an import function. Use that, edit the format that it missed and republish your content at will. With import it will mention the content is republished but it doesn't matter for views.

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1 year ago

Quite informative for new comers like me. In social media all have their plus and minus points and who appreciate one media the other tries to give a try jn it.

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1 year ago

Now this makes me want to look into Medium. So far, I'm okay with whatever I get from Hive and read.

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1 year ago

Well put, I think you've stated the facts quite clearly. Did you share this article with the Hive user?

I'd like to add my thoughts.

Medium is indeed a good place for crypto content, just look at all the blockchain projects that are actively posting updates on their blogs. On top of this, I like the fact that it's not a crypto-oriented platform as this makes it a neutral playground for both writers and readers. Spend enough time on a specific crypto platform and you'll see what self-absorbed echo chambers they are (no offense Rusty, love you bro!).

The Google indexing is also far better for Medium. This recent response on Noise highlights the numbers: https://noise.cash/post/9m9jjzgt30w66 Tip: Seeing as the content is mirrored across multiple Hive front ends, it would appear beneficial to your SEO rank to always backlink to your content on Hive.blog, even if you prefer posting on Peakd or Ecency.

Serious writers strive for evergreen content and look to be remunerated for their time and effort. The challenge for writers on Hive is the 7 day curation window. Write a useful article on Medium and it can earn you rewards further down the line, just like a back catalogue of books for an author.

That being said, I think that the Hive project is incredibly important. It's quite an achievement that this decentralised social network managed to successfully fork and overtake Steem. It's really good for crypto in general and the community are putting in great effort at promoting the ecosystem on Twitter. However, I think that it's more likely that we'll eventually see wider adoption of Ethereum based social graphs, such as Lens Protocol on Polygon. It's up to Hive to maintain the advantage of the head start it has.

Also, the complicated signup process and terrible formatting interface are quite off-putting. I didn't bother reposting my recent deep dive articles for example because I thought all the labour of reformatting images and hyperlinks was not worth the time spent. Can't they implement a WYSIWYG editor?

P.S. The stream of bots that tip you are most likely users who sign up for curation trails. Visit hive.vote and you can sign up for such a trail. When a trail leader upvotes good content all the users automatically upvote too. You can enter % limits to avoid using too much of your Hive resources. There's also an option to become a fan of another user, independent of curation trails. Both methods provide a good way to add extra income streams to your Hive operation.

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1 year ago

As expected there is nobody that read my content at Hive. https://ecency.com/leofinance/@pantera1/hive-vs-medium-which-writing-platform-is-the-best

I boosted the article with 150 points I had left, but seriously it makes no difference. This is a dead platform.

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1 year ago

Boost or promote?

Boost adds a little extra to your author payout.

Promote puts your article in the spotlight for a few days (but only on the Ecency platform).

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1 year ago

I boosted but I've used promotion in the past. It didn't change a lot. There's just too few that care to read content at Hive (Leo), besides the content that is on the top of Leo page which is a monopoly of a few accounts and their subaccounts.

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1 year ago

a monopoly of a few accounts and their subaccount.

Accounts and subaccounts. For instance, @taskmaster4450, @taskmaster4450LE.

Always at the top even with nothing but incomplete articles without sufficient information to hit the point since the upvotes will definitely come without anyone even reading it.

They constantly use the lack of interaction as an excuse. This is absolutely false.

I've posted several videos on 3speak.tv (a video-sharing platform under the Hive blockchain) and within the first few minutes, I received about 45 upvotes without a single view on the video. Shows just how messed up the system is. No sincerity.

I commented on this post on Hive some days agp since I spend the lots of my time there now. Checked back a few minutes ago for your response but it seems you haven't been there in a while. Had to trace the post back to read.cash.

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1 year ago

Did you share this article with the Hive user?

That's the plan. Maybe tomorrow. I'm confident nobody will care besides some of the people following me there.

When a trail leader upvotes good content all the users automatically upvote too.

Thanks for clarifying this part. Still, it explains why there are only limited authentic interactions. Following this trail means that users like articles they didn't read. So, the likes at Hive are not a credible factor of anything. Perhaps it is also the reason view numbers are hidden. Probably in many articles, the number of views is less than the number of likes these articles received since users signed up in this process to automatically upvote content they never visited.

Both methods provide a good way to add extra income streams to your Hive operation.

I'm interested in real users and numbers. This whole curation trail makes no sense.

It's up to Hive to maintain the advantage of the head start it has.

It's been like six or seven years since Steemit appeared? I don't see it having an advantage. Content-based platforms should favor content over anything else. Hive favors its token's value above content.

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1 year ago

I started my read journey yesterday and looking forward to join more platform. You share great comparison between Hive and Medium. Perhaps I will soon join them too. Wish you good luck for your exams

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1 year ago

Up until now I haven't visited those platforms but it's good to know you are thriving and still growing there. Go for the gold of passing the exam and get an awesome new job. I guess you get tired of the previous or prefer new experiences.

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1 year ago

Never used medium for writing. Have an account in there for reading stuff but rarely use it. Leo is good if the right people like your stuff

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1 year ago

Wow! I didn't know Medium pays too. Thanks for this article. I probably needs to check this out. If you have a reflink, please share it here so i could sign up under your link.

As for Hive, I think I'm gonna have a tough journey there but it's fine. As what PVM said, every penny counts so I'm still gonna use it, but I am open for another platform too.

I do have a question tho. Can I use my current read articles to Medium or does it need to be original? Thank you again.

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1 year ago

It doesn't pay in your region because it is connected to Stripe (which supports only certain locations).

However, this can always change one day, so you'd better be ready if it does.

You will need 100 followers (real people) to become a partner. Also, you will get taxed 30% of your earnings as a non-American. That's also only when Stripe becomes available in your region or Medium adds more payment processors.

Read Jonica's guide if you are interested.

https://read.cash/@JonicaBradley/a-medium-tutorial-28016356

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1 year ago

If one can't join the Medium partner program, they can still enable the newly added tipping feature. And maybe earn something that way. Of course, it's not comparable to the partner program. But it's something.

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1 year ago

Thank you, Pantera!

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1 year ago

I just read this after I posted my comment. Too bad Strip is not available here. But then I found this https://medium.com/publishous/how-i-get-paid-on-medium-despite-coming-from-an-unsupported-country-ff60e457df65

There is hope! :D

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1 year ago

You're the best, lee!

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1 year ago

I am a month old in Hive and still learning. I don't know about medium but base on what you have said, its good too. Thanks for sharing

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1 year ago

A lot of the world still doesn't support the Medium Partner Program. So, though you can read and subscribe to Medium if you are in certain areas, you may not be able to get paid to write there. The Philippines, for example, does not support payment through the Medium Partner Program. :-(

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I don't know about medium but base on what you have said, its good too.

You must be too young then, since Medium has been a top-100 website for the last 10 years.

As I recommended before, Jonica's tutorial can guide you: https://read.cash/@JonicaBradley/a-medium-tutorial-28016356

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1 year ago

Yes i am very young in hive and still learning. I have a lot more things to learn. Thanks for sharing it.

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1 year ago

Do you need to interact on Medium as well? Leofinance is home to crypto whales, but they don't tip those who are not loyal to them..lol..and it needs to be active as well.

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1 year ago

I suggest starting there Jane. Your location is included in the regions Stripe accepts, so you can begin. Remember you will get taxed 30% of your Medium income as a non-American, and you will have to declare your Medium income in your yearly tax statement (you will get a letter every year from Medium with the details).

Also, you might get taxed again if Hong Kong doesn't have an agreement to avoid double taxation with the US. You may have to check the internet to see if there is such an agreement. Luckily for my country, there was one, so it is just that 30% as a tax.

You will also need 100 followers to become a partner. Well, besides me it will be 99 more!

You can read Jonica's guide here: https://read.cash/@JonicaBradley/a-medium-tutorial-28016356

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1 year ago

Do you need to interact on Medium as well?

There's no need to comment at all. Also, there's no need of supporting others or asking for support. The user base is millions and the writers' tens of thousands. There's no need to struggle with anything else but your content.

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1 year ago

Just a few days ago I joined on Hive and made a post, got 18 likes and $0.88 Hive while I had zero followers. Lol.. And now I can't post due to low power. I don't know how it's work. However, reply to your friend and last part of the article was so good. And best of luck for your next exam. 🙂

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1 year ago

Thanks for the comment. Indeed, Hive has strange ways. You need to hold at least some Hive staked, and the more you stake the more your voting power grows. Many whales game the system which is made to support those with the most voting power and bots.

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