Can Violence Be Justifiable?

Whatever is the reason why he did that, it's not right to raise his hand on her. Real men don't hit women. And women, please know your worth. Don't stay in an abusive relationship. This is not what love looks like.

Babae man gud siya madam haha lupigan pa niya ang batasan sa baba lalo na iyahang baba murag babae ..Maong di jod naku siya bet ky murag naa Jod something sa iyaha uyy ..Luoy kaau ang babae

during pbb days pako naka bantay sa iyang attitude te, katong naa siyay kaaway na girl niya the way siya mo react kay mast grabi pa sa babae iyang baba

Yung issue na yan talaga, they look perfect in social media but the reality says the opposite. Hayyyysstt sana naman hindi na mauulit yung ganyan

She is really badly injured. The boy should didn’t do it. In a true relationship never ever happen like this.

Nagkalat na si Kit sa facebook grabe hindi man lang pumasok sa utak na babae yun. Ang lala niya magalit at magselos.

I also have seen that circulating in Facebook and that's why we shouldn't trust the looks or the impression because someone's real colors are always hidden.

Grabe na turn off na ko kay kit dahil jan. Maling mali din talaga. May mali din ei girl pero sana hiniwalayan na lang din niya.

Of course, it is never ok to hit a woman... almost never... As a general rule, it is, not for any reason. But me being me, I've had to once. It was about a decade ago and it was pure self-defense. The circumstances that lead up to it are irrelevant but the reason I hit her back was that the woman that was assaulting me (she was drunk) was a regional MMA champ in the class. And believe me, when her punches and kicks landed I NEEDED to fight back. But that was an extreme case.

But I think the title doesn't really match up with the article content. You see.... The answer to the title, without reading the article, is yes.

In my view it is. There are situations and circumstances besides the one I mentioned above where the answer is yes, it is justified. And I've got experience with two such cases in which I still feel the violence was justified. In one case it was a matter of blind rage and the other was a matter of... well... it was a mix of culture clash and not giving in to intimidation.

The first case was the most recent one. It was three years ago. My kid would ofter go out to play at a playground not very far from our house, which was pretty much in the middle of a public park. In spring and summertime, the park's shrubbery was thick enough that it was obscuring the view from the streets. One night my kid got home and he told me that a man had been sitting on a bench every time he went to play there, watching the children play. Now that is kind of creepy but nothing that warrants any action.

But when my kid told me that the man had come up to him and started talking to him my hair stood up on my neck and my blood ran hot already. It took me a while to get the entire story out of my son but eventually, he told me that the man had first walked over and talked about what my son liked to play with and if he liked school and other trivial little things. Still creepy, still nothing to warrant any immediate action. But when my kid said the man had told him about his lego collection and had asked him if he would like to come and play with the lego at his place all bets were off,

Maybe i overreacted and maybe i should have handled it differently but at that point, I reacted on instinct. The next day I had a friend watch the kid after school and went to the playground myself. I saw the creep sitting at the bench my kid said he always sat and he fit the description my son gave exactly. I'm not going to say exactly what i did to him just in case this ever gets read by authorities but the creep fled the scene bleeding profusely constantly repeating how sorry he was. Never saw him again, nor did any report get filed with the police. Neither did local media report anything so the man didn't go to the police or the hospital.

Our city is small enough for something like that to have made the paper and/or local news websites. I personally feel that was a case where violence was justified. Especially hearing from other parents their kids had mentioned the guy as well, and one of them had even reported it to the police. The police had told the mother of one of the kids that they couldn't take any action against the man because he hadn't broken any laws, and all they could do was have a car patrol a bit more often.

The other case was 20 years ago when i moved into an apartment in the less reputable part of the city. The majority of the people living there have a non-western foreign heritage as the PC correct term is these days. 80% is foreign and of that 80% the majority is of Moroccan descent. The neighborhood streets were basically dominated by a group of mostly Moroccan "kids" of 16-22 years of age. Now i must admit that I'm kind of an asshole when it comes to responding to intimidation and I also react adversely to immigrated people who expect the locals to adapt and adhere to their sensibilities and cultural norms. So on a hot summer day, I decided to have a barbeque down on the pavement in front of the apartment building. My balcony was too small to do it and i really didn't want to stay inside so there i was, the bbq fired up, with bacon sizzling while i sat next to it in a lawn chair, a crate of beer next to me.

I was having a great time really until a group of about 12 of our so-called cultural enrichments came along. One of them noticed the bbq and started making remarks in Arab so i couldn't understand a word of it, or cared about it. Until one of them started to posture and rile up the others in an angry tone of voice. I knew something was up but ignored it anyway. (the asshole part of me). The situation got out of control when they started making an issue of the fact i was baking porc and drinking alcohol during what apparently was an important Muslim religious occasion. Still don't know which exactly, nor does it matter.

We are in the Netherlands, in my city, and in my street. I don't care what you do, belief, celebrate, what your culture is about and what the norms and values are of your religion. You do what you do, but in public, you're in my country, my culture, and this culture you leave me alone and i leave you alone. You adapt to our culture, norms, and values when you're in public and we're going to get along brilliantly. And you get to build your mosques and indulge in your culture and values behind your front door, or wherever you want as long as it doesn't interfere with your life.

They interfered.

At one point the group kind of surrounded me and the designated spokesman started asking me who I was, what I was doing, and so on. I told him who i was didn't concern him, that it was enough for him to know I lived in the apartment building behind me, and that if he looked at my tattoo he should know enough to know I was born and raised in the city. (I have the cathedral's main tower tattooed on my left leg, and the local football team's name on my right leg). Now someone with a little knowledge about the local situation among the lower classes knows that in principle no one gives a shit about anybody else and everyone is expected to deal with their own problems. The notable exception is when there is a group claiming or trying to claim authority over the streets or force us to adapt our lives to our cultural norms and values.

So when things escalated and they destroyed the bbq and my lawn chair, trashed my case of beer, and punches were exchanged before i was forced to retreat inside because i was outnumbered 12 to 1 they should have known that wouldn't be the end of it. I knew the police wouldn't be able to or want to do something about it, and so i was left with two options. Accept being bullied and intimidate off the streets, letting the group basically claim it as their own. Or see what Vak G (one side of the stadium's supporter's seats where the most enthusiastic supporters usually sit/stand.) thought of the incident. I chose the latter.

It took a while but eventually, we tracked down the parents of the group and with the exception of the parents of two brothers in the group, the spokesman being one of them, having a group of 30 big angry looking Yellow Black wearing men come to their door, explaining what happened and suggesting that if anything like that involved their progeny ever happened again they would visit them again, the group of men would return was enough to convince their children that they should leave everyone alone.

That one family which didn't want to cooperate thought that they could get away with playing the racism card and arrogance and basically told us to go fuck off. This wasn't received well by the group of big angry yellow black men and there was a fight. The big angry yellow black men won, and the family learned when trying to get support from their brethren that they didn't want to have anything to do with it and they were on their own.

And with that, the situation was resolved. I had no more trouble from the group of kids or anyone else in that neighborhood, and even built an amicable relationship with them, having conversations with some of them during hot summer evenings when a lot of people escaped the heat inside and went outside. Some of them even brought me some of the treats that traditionally go with the end of Ramadan and i handed out chocolate letters that traditionally go with Sinterklaas in our culture.

So in that case too i think the violence was justified.

So to say violence is never justified is something i cannot agree with. Violence against women (when they're not beating the crap out of you) is never justified. If you're in a relationship in which you can't resolve your disagreements by talking, it's time to end the relationship and move on. Violence is never acceptable.

Sorry for the long-ass reply, but once i get into replying, i want to make sure it can't be misinterpreted. I don't always succeed but hopefully, this isn't one of those cases. :D

It's a crime ate, kita ko nga yan. Naawa talaga ako sa kanya.

No, this act will never be justifiable. Kahit saan pang anggulo tingnan, it's still a crime ate.

Ito nga usapan sa facebook sis these past few days and grabe talaga. Sabi ng kapatid niya buong katawan nalamog sa bugbog. Hindi na love yon, sana naman maeducate yung mga taong nananakit sa kapwa tao.

There is no method that humiliates oneself more than using one's physical superiority in the face of another's physical weakness. It is unacceptable for them to commit such abominations, especially when people who have become public figures should show an exemplary life.

I saw that post too madam. Luoy kaayu ang girl uy. Dili jud rason ang selos para mangngulata. Ako ana, biyaan na jud nako uy. Basin nuon ug mayataps ta nga wa sa oras.

Di naman sa nagbubuhat ng bangko pero di ko talaga maimagine sarili ko na saktan gamit kamay mga naka relasyon ko. Emotional oo, pero physical sobrang sama naman nun.