Why is Amaury pushing his will on the entire BCH space?

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3 years ago

Someone asked: why Amaury is willing to push his will on to the entire BCH space?

It seems Amaury is doing it to save BCH from taking too long to fulfill the dream of Bitcoin. I see no reason to assume he has changed his intentions (that he has manifested for years as he seemingly dedicated his life to the dream). He has been clearly communicating for months that funding was insufficient to achieve real progress. I believe he is correct and that we have been failing to do the needed development work quickly enough to fulfill the dream using the current (donations) funding model. I believe there is a window of opportunity to become the world's sufficiently decentralized (un-stoppable) peer-to-peer electronic cash. We had a big head-start, but BCH is not the only crypto looking to fulfill this dream. I hope we have not delayed too long already.

The dream is under attack and many will tell you we are in no hurry and need not move any faster at developing scaling and more consumer-friendly apps. Some even claim we should slow down and upgrade BCH much less often. IMO, Anti-BCH forces are strongly opposed to better funding of BCH development so their social engineering teams of agents I call the "troll army" have fooled much of the BCH community into attacking itself. It turns out many here were ready and willing to hate Amaury for a variety of reasons and found common ground when recruited by the troll army.

"Amaury's will" helped create and has been leading the direction of BCH for three years. The troll army just weaponized the status quo as if it was something new. He is sometimes annoying and I would guess the reports he is difficult to work with are true. Hard to know since reports of his evil, dishonest, lazy, ... intentions are very common and usually unfounded. I can see why he seems to have given up on most efforts to respond to social media attacks on his efforts to make BCH into a real Bitcoin (sufficiently decentralized (un-stoppable) peer-to-peer electronic cash for the world's people).

The protest movement lead by the new node team (BCHN) has great support from the troll army and most of those who post on social media (I call the trolls plus their recruits the "mob" for short). Rare posts by people like me who question the "mob's" often unfounded or outright dishonest assumptions are often voted into obscurity.

BCHN has great support for a re-energized donations funding model during this attack on the reference client team (ABC). Anti-BCH money and volunteers may be flowing in, but good folks have joined the BCHN team and may be able to make their fork of BCH into something great before that energy diminishes again. They claim it is Amaury's fault that donations were not enough in the past. I can not tell how true that is, if at all.

If miners support ABC's funding strategy in November, ABC will try to make development happen using miner donations (it is the money the miners have already earned and the IFP was their idea). The hope is that reliable funding can make BCH better faster. The "Mob" want's to stop the automated and fairly-shared donations from the miners. The mob says they are winning and will control the Bitcoin Cash name in November.

I believe the troll army pushed us to fork BCH as an attack on BCH. It is bad in many ways. Even so, if there is a fork, I hope both sides get enough support to fully test their funding strategies. I think having 2 BCH's that both really seek to fulfill the real dream of Bitcoin could be great for the future. I am concerned BCHN may be infiltrated by anti-BCH forces, but the good folks there may be able to overcome that even if it is true. The very common claims that ABC has bad intentions could be true, but appear to be unfounded and unlikely.

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3 years ago

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good folks have joined the BCHN team

Correction: good folks CREATED the BCHN team. Of course, good folks also joined too!

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3 years ago

That may be true. We can't be sure yet. They do say it is true. I hope it is.

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Troll army? That is Team ABC with the memes, the personal attacks and the constant nastiness.

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Most trolls are on your side now that you switched to their team. I don't blame you since that's where the easy money is at the moment. Coming here to lie in my thread is pretty low though. I guess the lying must pay best.

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3 years ago

You always accuse me of lying but you never present any evidence. False accusations make you the liar.

I didn't switch sides. I remain with Bitcoin Cash. Amaury is pushing a bizarree and value-damaging course of action that I can't support.

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I have been accusing you recently since you switched to repeating arguments based on false assumptions. Before that you seemed to care about facts and truth. I respected your honesty back then.

I am one of our local experts on what is and is not the "troll army". I have followed and responded to their dishonest attacks on BCH and the dream of Bitcoin for years. They craft false-assumption-based arguments to use when the facts are not consistent with their anti-BCH needs. Over the last few months they have recruited you and others to their team to try to divide the community and block BCH from funding it's developers in a way that might lead to real success at achieving the Bitcoin dream. It appears they are winning that battle and BCH may be in deep trouble.

I doubt you see that, but I think you do know you have strayed from the facts to make your arguments fit the troll agenda. Very few posts on social media support ABC or IFP with "with the memes, the personal attacks and the constant nastiness". They do fight back a bit, but it is clearly your team that has been nasty day in and day out for months. Pretending you and your team are the nice ones is dishonest. I am not going to waste time collecting data to prove something so obvious. You would just continue to ignore facts you don't like anyway.

Amaury's attempt to let miners donate to development funding could add great value to BCH. It could raise use and value by orders of magnitude. It looks like your team may be stopping or delaying that effort for years again. They are well funded professionals and they do know how to block a real Bitcoin attempt.

Because they recruited some great BCH fans to their attack on BCH, it may backfire and BCHN may turn out to make BCH great using volunteers and an organic-donation-funding strategy. It is risky and may be an infiltrated team but I still hope for the best from BCHN.

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3 years ago

false assumptions

No, differing priorities and preferences.

they have recruited you and others to their team to try to divide the community

No one recruited me.

funding it's developers in a way that might lead to real success at achieving the Bitcoin dream

Funding is not the only element required for success.

BCH may be in deep trouble

BCH is doing great.

your team

I have no team but Bitcoin Cash.

that has been nasty day in and day out for months

Says the guy who has been accusing me of lying for months without once providing any evidence to back up his assertions. The irony!

Amaury's attempt to let miners donate to development funding could add great value to BCH

Miner donations to ABC have been active for years and I scaled it up from Apr of this year.

could

That's a lot of "could"s. And a lot of things "could" help.

But splitting is not one of them.

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Says the guy who has been accusing me of lying for months without once providing any evidence to back up his assertions.

Not providing enough evidence to prove "x" to you does not make the "x" mistaken.

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