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Communities just got that more important As we have detailed in our previous article, we're slowly giving more *importance* to our communities. https://read.cash/@Read.Cash/some-plans-for-communities-3b38e8ce#our-plan **As of now**, if you want to get some points for your articles, you need to *write* to a community or *submit* your *own* article to a relevant community.
Only your own submission will get you points and only when accepted. First community to accept your post gives you points. You may submit to multiple communities. **Regarding comments.** Only comments that are **in communities** get you points. How to find articles that are posted to communities? The easiest way is to actually go to interesting communities and to their "new" page especially: https://read.cash/communities
Any article there will accept your comment and these will give you points. How do you determine if it is a regular article or a community article in the feed? Look for the blue community button:
**As of right now** we are giving out **points to moderators** of respective communities (20%). If somebody submits his/her **own** article to your community and you accept it - you (as a moderator) get 20% of 20 points (=4 points). The same goes for comments (20% of 4 points = 0.8 points). If you have an admin and a moderator, these 20% is split equally, so each one gets 10%... Right now the points will be split equally among the admin/moderators, but in future community admins will have the way to set how the split should be done (which moderators get more, which gets less). Note that only **author's own submissions** will give points and only the first community to approve gives and gets points. For example: an author writes an article and submits it to three communities - first one to approve gives author the points and gets points for moderators. If somebody submits someone's article to a community - it doesn't give anyone any points. This is only step 2 of our plan, please see our previous article for the full plan. https://read.cash/@Read.Cash/some-plans-for-communities-3b38e8ce#our-plan **We'll add more hints later** to help you understand whether you get points or not for the action you take. One more important thing: **only articles written starting June 5th, 2020** will get any points for first submission (this is to prevent people mass-submitting their older articles and getting 20 points for each). **If you wrote an article recently and didn't get points for it** - don't worry - just submit to any community and wait for acceptance (or you can create your own community and post there). *This article isn't posted to any community, so I didn't get any points for it and unless somebody submits it to some community - comments here won't give you points either. This is all a part of the plan to make sure that people actually start using communities so that moderators of communities can help us fight the spam wave.*
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Eagerly anticipating this change! I think this will be a net positive for read.cash!
Except for the moderators' 20% thing it is live now, so no need to wait :)
Awesome! When do you anticipate that will go into effect?
~~Few hours.~~ Live now.
Awesome! Thanks!
It's live now. Moderators get 20%.
The change has begun, i made some random comment outside the communities and discovered that nothing was added my points then i went to the community to read and make comments the points were added to my earnings
This development is superb and will decline the rate of spamming on the platform. The incentives given to the moderators will go a long way to curb spamming and plagiarism to some extent. A moderator working is working for something tangible, so the motivation is there. Thanks @read.cash.
This is a good initiative to sanitize read.cash
It's a good upgrade... Now I'm sure spam would be reduced to a very good extent
What if you create a community and submit your articles to that. Do you get both points as the author and moderator/admin?
Yes. The important thing to remember here is the next 2 steps, where we'll be marking featured communities that can uphold high standards, so only those will be giving points. So, if you have a great community and submit your articles there - I don't see a problem with getting points both as write and moderator.
A positive change for the better. It sorts the posts, gives incentives to participate in communities, and it gives spam less chance to exist! A brilliant choice. Now all we need is some sort of Flipstarter or a Patreon account... or maybe even just monthly donation chart...
> Now all we need is some sort of Flipstarter or a Patreon account... or maybe even just monthly donation chart... Could you clarify what you mean by that?
Well, since people really don't like ads, why don't you have a way for other people to manually donate, but the site isn't touched. You could go for something like a monthly donation fund.
There is a very detailed explanation of why not go the "paid-for by users" way [here](https://read.cash/@Read.Cash/advertising-paid-by-users-46ae93d0). We tried, it doesn't work.
It's a good upgrade... Now I'm sure spam would be reduced to a very good extent
You are probably aware that this will not solve all problems, but this is definitely a step in the right direction. Why I believe in read.cach is the fact that you always react to what is happening and that there is always progress. That's where you differ from yours, honest and also memo.
Yeah, this step is not to reduce spam actually, but to get people used to posting in communities. The real reduction will come from next two steps from our place, where we'll define what a "featured" community is and we'll allow only featured communities to give out points. That should result in spam decrease, since we won't be giving out the "featured" status to spam-enabling communities :) Thanks for believing in us!
this all sounds great! really appreciate your efforts 👏👍
Thanks. At last some action is going on for spammers. This will sort out each articles authenticity.
Just to make sure I got this right. Correct me if I'm wrong. My English comprehension is not too good. * I created a community and I submitted my own article to it and I will have both the author and moderators points but the moderator point will be divided equally between me as the admin and my moderators. * If I read an article that is not yet submitted to a community and find that article is suitable for my community amd submitted it myself, neither of us will get points. * An articles that submitted to the community that I created already accepted into other community first, therefore even if we accept the article in ours we would not get the points? * And what will happen to the article that is rejected? I'm sorry for the long comment.
1. Yes, correct. 2. Yes. But the author might choose to submit to another community and get points for that. We expect authors that want points to be "writing for community", so they'll be submitting the article to potentially interesting communities immediately with publishing it. You still can get points for comments when you submit it to your community. 3. Yes. Actually only author's submission can give points. When you submit somebody's article anywhere, you don't get any points. 4. Nothing. If it was author who submitted he/she can submit to any number of communities and the first one to accept gives the points. Longs comments are much better than comments that don't make sense :)
Thank you for the quick response. It seems like I need to make a little updates in both sst n syt community that I created.
Nicely done. This will reduce the spam a little. Still spammers will hit the communities with commenting.
Hi, after this latest update, i started to accumulate negative points and negative balances after moderating, accepting, deleting, adding articles. I have noticed it today, i dont know since when this is happening: You have -15.0 point(s) now, currently, it is expected to be worth about $ -0.0391 at payout from read.cash's fund tomorrow.
Hmm, yeah, that's an interesting bug. We'll check it out. Thanks!
Ok, not a bug as it turns out. You've deleted an article for which you previously got 20 points. So, since you deleted that article, 20 points were deducted from your account. Since you had only 5, your balance went negative to -15.
hmm so is this the normal behaviour? i had to delete that article to comply a new law in my country. my country switched into rule of decree two months ago, suspending elections and partially illegalizing of forming oppinion on some topics. i kept the article as draft, but it was annoying, it was floating on the top of my articles so i deleted it alltogteher. i dont think the system should deduct the points if you delete an article whatsoever, but it should not go to minus for sure.
Really? Well, here's a business plan for you in that case: register 10 accounts, create 10 articles, get 200 points for that, next day, delete the articles (0 points don't go negative, so stays at zero), publish SAME 10 articles again, delete next day - continue for next 10 years. Annoying the hell of read.cash in the process, but pretty effective. That's what spammers were doing. If you gave somebody something and he gave you $20 for it and then you take it back - shouldn't you give $20 back?
Ok, well i have created 24 articles so far, and i have deleted one, why i have minus points then? Why people getting points for publishing an article, a comment, or why they get points if they are upvoted? This is not facebook, you should not give out people free money for no reason just because you got FREE money to begin with. The community gave it for you to operate a proper portal properly, if you cant do it, then just give it back to the donators. Your pointing system is totally flawed, and favors the spammers, trolls, copypaste knights.
> Ok, well i have created 24 articles so far, and i have deleted one, So, you have received 24 times 20 points = 480. Everyday your points were converted to Bitcoin Cash that was paid to you. Let's say each point was $0.01 - that means each article got you $0.20, so you've got $4.80 in Bitcoin Cash, and the points were at zero after payment. Then you delete an article. You are expected to give back $0.20 that was given to you for it. Since we can't take Bitcoin Cash back that was given to you for the 20 points you've got for your article, we're giving you negative points (debt) to be paid back.
Regarding your assessment of the point system: https://read.cash/@Read.Cash/some-plans-for-communities-3b38e8ce#our-plan
> The community gave it for you Yeah, right. 33% of the fund is our money. The biggest other donor MarcDeMesel knows exactly our plans and is happy with how the fund works and what it does. You have no idea how little spammers/copypasters get. You assume they get paid same as you, but this is incorrect. So, 99% of the fund donors are happy with what's going on. Why are you talking for us? Why do you assume you know better what we (the fund donors) want? You are free to ignore the point system at all. It doesn't ask anything from you, it just always gives. Yet you are unhappy.
I am quite of unhappy, every day i have to sacrafice 10 minutes to read the raw shit disguised as articles, which they post into my community to gather those magical points, which allows them to earn bch, and i have to delete, discard, and report some, and sometimes, contact others as well to delete them. Since this (very confusing and weekly changing) system have introduced, the high quality articles are almost gone, and i only can see very bad quality articles. I am prety sure the fund donors dont want this site to turn to another honest.cash or yours.org type of spam accumulator. At this point, the point system is just confusing, basically invites all the parasites across the internet, and makes devasting effects.
Question: What happens to my old posts since they weren't submitted to communities? Do they still earn points for views, etc.? Or do I need to submit those to a community earn points for them? Or are those pretty much not eligible for points now?