Understanding the stats

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4 years ago

I see a lot of questions regarding the points and with why the equivalent is low so I wanted to give light to the stats section of the website and hope that it helps people understand it and the site better. But this is entirely based on how I see and interpret it.

So right now we are at 8,933 users in the site. A big achievement, yes! but there's more to that.

Of the number of users, 125 of those were just from yesterday and it will continue to increase since as I write this, there are 11 new members that just signed up recently. Why am I talking about this? Well we all speculate that the funds distributed and points given decrease because of the increasing number of members. Well that's partly true. True in a sense that it affects the points to bch (in dollar equivalent) exchange the uses

As of yesterday, the average point price was at 0.0025, so that 1 point you earn is equivalent to 0.0025 worth of bch in dollars. and that 0.0025 funds a regular 755 user daily by points accumulated. (This answers why the conversion of the points got so low now. Because look at that decline, my friends. The drop was is so big)

Wherein 528 people in that total users are the newcomers that have accounts less than a month old. As seen below. These are the users that seem to receive the majority of the daily spending funds too

But where does that equivalent come from? Based on my speculation, I can only believe that it's determined by the number of users daily, vs. The daily spend limit of 137usd vs. the average points given by the random rewarder. I'm really not sure as to what determines the amount of point one gets here but to my observation, I can see that elongated discussions, tips and upvotes from power users is the most known ways to get them. Other speculations are the quality of your posts and of your previous posts as well as the interactions those have. But then I questioned the part of posts because a lot of us posts so many articles per day but still get no points. So could you say that they were bad articles or does the random rewarder circulate among users?

If the later speculation was the case, then shouldn't the points have increased since the amount of quality articles have increased and so has the amount of comments received on the daily basis also increased? ( I'm not sure about short posts though but these also affect the comment count in a much larger sense than full articles since a lot of users really make use of this feature. ) But then as we can see, the points given per day is at a stable trend, if anything, it seemed to have increased in the past 2 days

In the last 2 days, the points distributed was around 55,000. And This apparently does not have a minimum nor maximum, it just shows a trend and I'm sure will increase with the increase of new members too.

To conclude my thoughts. I think there should be other ways for the site to gain funds like in consented selling of user content and those microtasks that @ralak has started to do, just as a means of not being overly reliant on the funds and the sponsors (because a delay in payment also causes a commotion somehow), and hopefully to raise the daily spending limit with the increase of the number of users

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4 years ago

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As the number of users increase geometrically, @read.cash needs to explore other means of getting revenue apart from depending on sponsors.

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4 years ago

I agree and i do hope they'd be open to accepting suggestions from the members

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4 years ago

I think you don't actually get my point I am based on ,that made me to write my article.. I know clearly that a lot more people have joined the platform thereby it will cause such things as to how the points will be distributed. But they question here is why has both the value and number of points decreased?? Read the article well and you will understand what I mean. So if the points per day is not stable as shown on the stats page then there is no doubt that the value of the points will not decrease as I clearly stated it in my article but the question then is why are the number of points that needs to be allocated decreasing?? My article is clearly in two folds and you will have to read it well.. Thank you

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4 years ago

My answer is there though, the number of points didn't decrease. The points per day is stable and if anything, got higher in the past 2 days and it doesn't look like it's at a fixed rate too, nor has there been a minimum or maximum, but for now it's stable. The distribution just got wider and accompanied by it is the number of recipients so the 137 usd there seems to have been divided enough that the recipient will still receive a satisfactory amount for their contribution to the community so i assume that there needs to be a compromise somewhere for both the users and the funds in consideration for the long run of just relying on said funds.

It seems we have very different approaches to this topic you have in mind though so I'm sorry if how i understood your question and how i answered it is very different from what was expected

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4 years ago

Looking at the chat for the past two days it looks almost the same but the other days differ causing yesterday's points to have a lesser value as well as that of last two days but what I am looking at is that , how is the number not value decreasing. For the value I understand it will decrease but I am talking about the number I suggest we should be awarded with what we used to get and if the value goes down it is nothing. It is better we get the same number and have a moderate or lesser value than to have a lesser number and again a lesser value. Let's take this . Say I used to get 700 points and the value was 0.0028 or something like that in those days. Now I don't get 0.0028 for the value of a point and also I don't get 700 points also . That is what we ought to look at. If I get my 700 points but it has a value if day 0.0024 it is better than having a value of 0.0025 but having 450 or 400 points ..

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4 years ago

For the points per day though, you can see that it mostly fluctuated during the pre-random rewarder time but after the implementation the points per day steadied and now a slight increase has occured. The slight increase seems like it was made to give more points to the users, a slight adjustment which in turn, also adjusts everything, specially with how much the value of points equate into bch (or usd). It was a good move but what we can't hope for is for the points we receive to remain the same even when the exchange rate for points change, because again, there needs to be compromises somewhere for the distribution of points for the increasing number of users /while/ there are no other sources of funds for the site

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4 years ago

No other source of funds is the main problem let's forget about the points -numbers and values and I think if there is an additional source of funds all these will be solved

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4 years ago

Definitely πŸ˜…πŸ˜…πŸ˜… so now that should be the goal because i think we'll just end up fighting if we go over the stats and all

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4 years ago

There has been talk about allowing advertising as a means for the site to get income to the fund, and Read.Cash has said that they are considering that, if not even planning for it. It has yet not happened anything though; I don't know how far those plans have come or how serious they are, but surely the website had to be cleaned up first. You cannot get paying advertisers to a site full of low quality material and spam.

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4 years ago

So that's where @Dangerous_fly was coming from. I can understand where the major changes came from now. But I'd like to see an official announcement from the team themselves soon. Although the thing about spam content and low quality material, I wonder if those will disappear from the platform. And if the ads will ever increase the daily spending limit for the users

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4 years ago

You are right, spam and low quality material are still essentially unsolved problems and it is easy to doubt whether it will be possible to get rid of them completely.

I think the idea is that the daily spending limit should be increased. After all, if there is a stable income to the fund, more could be spent. It is so limited now, because nobody knows if there will ever come more donations to the fund and they must make it last more than a week.

But I think the amount of low quality material will remain a serious problem when it comes to attract the attention of substantial advertisers. The site must attract many external readers before it will be a reasonable option for advertisers, and readers are only coming if there is high quality material to read.

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4 years ago

And I've been finding new ways for spam to happen somehow so it will definitely be hard work to get rid of. But at least the quality of articles have really improved and that's enough a reason to randomly select an article from the home page.

Maybe this is why communities definitely need to make a comeback and that each article must at least be uploaded to a community. The curation and moderation really needs to be done to increase the quality. I take back what i formerly said about communities eventually coming to an end. I think now is the best time to be building them up again if a future with more external readers is what we aim for. More external users would mean more revenue here, right? And maybe more funds?

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4 years ago

More external users could be the basis to make the site attractive for advertisers. I don't think they would add any revenue otherwise.

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4 years ago

More than deleting low content, improve quality one's to have a better ratio between them us, in my opinion, a more recheabable goal to achieve in a first time.

Helping new users to understand how read.cash works is the way to achieve this goal in my though

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4 years ago

The first and original way to earn on read.cash is users tipping as Bitcoin cash was created (to be true it was "forked" more than created) to be a real peer-to-peer electronic cash system as Satoshi Nakamoto wanted Bitcoin to be.

Forks happened because of the limite of size block of Bitcoin blockchain which don't permit to transfer them with low fees, explaining why it is not used for "daily payement" or small amount (if Read.cash used BTC instead of BCH, your earning will be spent in transfer fees).

I recommend you to inform you on BCH creation, Amaury Sechet by reading @Cain post interviewing Amaury and others of his posts.

Earning coming from fund is more to incentive new users than a permanent way of earning.

Although, getting your first tip is hard and need quality content which coule be relevant during time, and not only trending one day on the front page

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4 years ago

Tips will never become substantial because the tipping mechanism is not available for non-members and you will never make external readers going through the trouble to register an account and get their hands on BCH, just to be able to tip something they can read for free. They find a page through a search engine, open it, read, and leave again. The major problem for all sites of this sort, is that it attracts writers, not readers, and the readers who are also writers, are far too few. There is no incentive here for readers, only for writers, that is a problem that must be solved if we want a future for read.cash. I pointed this out already more 3 months ago in this article https://read.cash/@Mictorrani/evaluation-of-readcash-identifying-problems-ac21c127

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4 years ago

Oh wow there's so many things that I need to know/learn here in rc. Cause I'm just a newbie here. Hope I can learn more about you guys so I can understand 😊☺️ one step at a time for me. Thank you

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4 years ago

Now should be a good time to understand how you're earning what you're earning so i thought of discussing those here

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4 years ago

Thanks for sharing

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4 years ago

Thanks for sharing this info I haven't really checked the stats before and I didn't know abt a lot if things you just shared thank u

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4 years ago

I hope you come to learn to check on the stats regularly too so as to know how you get what you earn ^-^

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4 years ago