What does the Bitcoin Cash community look like to a newbie? My honest feedback

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4 years ago

So I'm totally new to the Bitcoin world (less than 6 months) and I wanted to give the Bitcoin Cash community some feedback from the perspective of someone who's new to all of this stuff.

I'm not an expert on cryptocurrency but I do know a few things about marketing & sales, and there's a few things the Bitcoin Cash community does/says that is not helping the mission of "peer to peer electronic cash for the world"

1. Stop saying bad things about BTC

People who are new don't know enough yet to understand or even care what you have to say about BTC - all they will hear is "Bitcoin is bad" which will push people away since to most new people "bitcoin" is synonymous with cryptocurrency.

Think of it like this - let's say your 65 year old Mom wants to buy her first computer, she knows absolutely nothing about computers but wants to learn. If the first thing you do when she tells you she wants to buy a computer is go on a long RANT about why "Windows 10 sucks" because the "latest patch includes a buggy version of Java" she's going to get scared and confused. She has no idea what you're even saying, all she knows is you're saying something is BAD and that makes her FEEL BAD. People who feel bad, scared & confused are less likely to try something new.

The goal should be to educate people, get them interested, show them what makes this stuff really cool - if that means helping your friend buy some BTC then do it! Instead of telling him why BTC is bad, tell him why BCH is good & let him play with both.

2. Embrace the term BCASH

I once onboarded this bar owner here in bangkok and watched him teach his staff how to start accepting Bitcoin Cash - during this short employee training he called Bitcoin Cash "Bitcash"

Why? Because saying "Bitcoin Cash" is 3 syllables and kinda hard to say.

This is why people say "Shouldn't" instead of "Should not" - and fighting this normal human tendency to gravitate towards the easiest simplest way of speaking is a losing battle. Let people say bcash, don't get upset over something this trivial.

People who are brand new to this don't know the nefarious history of the term, they don't care, they just want to say what's easiest to say.

Instead of fighting "Bcash" just turn it into a meme, make it funny & most importantly don't let new people see you getting upset over something this small.

3. Focus on building not fighting

Some random BTC guy on twitter said something stupid? New people don't care.
You got blocked by a BTC guy? New people don't care.
Your post was deleted from r/bitcoin? New people don't care.

Focus more on the POSITIVE things, spend more time MAKING something cool than talking badly about BTC or people. When a community spends most of it's time talking badly about people and projects it does not help your community.

Show people that cool app you found, that coin swapping service, the crypto debit card, the website you found that let's you book hotels with BCH - that's what get's people excited - not posting negativity.

BTC is often the first thing many of us use, spend, earn or buy - and what's good for BTC is good for BCH since it means more people are entering the ecosystem of cryptocurrency. People will find out on their own that BTC fees are high and transactions are slow, when this happens they will discover BCH... That's what happend to me, and it will probably happen to them.

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I've long said that we need to be closer to the people we're looking to onboard. One of the steps to get there is to stop having a currency where you spend a tiny decimal - like 0.041052 BCH. There's some people in the community trying to get BCH to get a more standards-approved unit ticker (XCH) where the decimal point is shifted 6 steps to the right (so you get 2 decimal points, like ~95% of all common currencies out there), and give it a new name so it's not conflicting with the BCH unit: bits, cash, bitcash, cashbit, bcash - whatever works works.

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4 years ago

I think "bitcash" would be a great name for the 100-satoshi unit! "bit" could be its short version when there is no ambiguity.

1 bitcoin cash = 1,000,000 bitcashes or bits = 100,000,000 satoshis or sats (or maybe satcashes?)

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4 years ago

I think this is a pretty cool idea

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4 years ago

100% agree! Left ya a little tip! Good post man.

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4 years ago

Also, about the fighting. There are many more incoming attacks on Bitcoin Cash, than there are attacks originating from Bitcoin Cash. Most of the outgoing attacks are people angry at the waves of trolls they have to endure. Check out r/bitcoin or r/bitcoincashSV on Reddit - you'll hear "bcash is cancer", "bcash is btrash".. check out Twitter: "bcash is retarded", "bcash is for people with half a brain". It's not like Bitcoin Cash supporters are starting it. They just have to fight back. read.cash was also attacked multiple times with waves of trolls.

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4 years ago

Bcash is a poisoned term created only to damage the project. We are a legitimate continuation of the original bitcoin project and we should never forfeit this claim in our branding. That said, w.r.t. syllable count I can certainly see Bitcash working, at least as a shorthand name.

Agree with the rest!

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4 years ago

Yes, people do use the shorthand 'Bitcash' - it might be worth embracing that. Never heard anyone say 'bcash' other than trolls though.

n.b. Bitcash is in use by another crypto so there is also that to consider.

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4 years ago

You're right about so much, but Bitcoin Cash is Bitcoin and must carry Bitcoin in its name. Other names like Bcash are deliberately used to defame Bitcoin Cash as a scam.

Newbies can easily understand it if you compare it to dollars. BTC like USD, BCH like CAD and BSV like AUD. They are all dollars. Everyone understands that.

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4 years ago

You are totally right :-) I have had unlearn many of my "cellar-dwelling coder" internet lingo in order to convey the positive message of BCH and crypto in general to the people that are not part of the crypto world. They want to know if it is useful and why they should use it, and don't care about the internal meme wars etc.

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4 years ago

Focus more on the POSITIVE things, spend more time MAKING something cool than talking badly about BTC or people

Good advice in your posts, that's exactly what most of us who have been in Bitcoin longer are doing now that we have Bitcoin Cash.

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4 years ago

Nice Keep up sir

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4 years ago

I fully agree with 1 & 3! Especially on the (very badly branded) subreddit r/btc there's a few people really obsessed talking shit about BTC all the time. I'm hopeful r/bitcoincash will become a more positive BCH centric alternative.

For the second point: many people use the ticker symbol BCH as a more convenient alternative to the full name. The name Bitcoin Cash is a schelling point of BCH that we really can't concede on. Here's a great talk by Amaury Séchet on the concept: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ywIL17ityk

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4 years ago

I reference myself as a "bcasher" often times tongue in cheek, especially when talking to the wider crypto-community.

The people who don't know about crypto do not care about Bitcoin in the name. And the people already deep into crypto do not need to be taught, that Bitcoin Cash is actually a legitimate Bitcoin fork. They either aknowledge it or they don't, they certainly do know.

I speculated and now am reassured, that many people would use BitCash or Bcash in a quite natural manner, the last thing I'll do is to tell them to not use that word "because reasons". It doesn't matter at all. In fact I would have suggested to call it Bitcash as opposed to Bitcoin. Back then it was still open if Bitcoin Cash would win out but today it is clear, that we do not have to fight this battle out anymore.

Bitcoin Cash or Bcash or Bitcash is simply a great crpytocurrency and on a sidenote it is nearer to the original concept of Bitcoin than todays Bitcoin is. But noone cares about that fact, other than people who try to smear Bitcoin Cash for stealing a brand, which in itself is so silly, that we should have ignored their stupid takes in the first place. Everything is fine.

just.be.cash.always.

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4 years ago

I totally agree with you on 1 and 3 like just about everyone else. I can understand why some are reluctant to agree on #2, but I might be with you on that one as well. It might also get all the BTC maximalists out of our hair if we went with Bcash. Not sure though. In any case, I think #3 is the most important by far so nothing else really matters.

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4 years ago

You are absolutely right about everything, having "debates" on social media is just adding to the noise and working against adoption, not to mention a huge waste of time. After the hash war, i'm trying actively NOT get dragged into arguments or politics on Twitter

BTW here is how the word bcash was used as an attack https://medium.com/@jonaldfyookball/why-some-people-call-bitcoin-cash-bcash-this-will-be-shocking-to-new-readers-956558da12fb

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4 years ago

I would totally agree with this. Except, of course, with "bcash".. and many people would agree, the problem isn't even with the fact that "Bitcoin Cash" is a bit long, but with the fact, that "Bitcoin Cash" is effectively "Bitcoin". Bitcoin was, in fact, hijacked. I've been with Bitcoin since 2013 and I've seen it grow. I was sure that in 10 years it'll be the world currency.

Then there appeared a company that kicked out all of the reasonable developers and kept an unreasonable cap on Bitcoin block size, thereby preventing it from ever achieving a status of world currency. How can something be a world currency when it can do 400 000 transactions per day for the whole world?!

That's why so many are pissed off at Bitcoin BTC and don't want to get "Bitcoin" out of the name. It will be very-very-very hard if impossible to convince BCH community to just accept that people don't want to have the word "Bitcoin" in the name, because it's too long. It is important.

EDIT: There's a book "Bitcoin Wars" here that describes all the dark history. People fought really hard to keep the word "Bitcoin" in the name and all the people we fought against, fought to remove "Bitcoin" from the name, thereby delegitimizing Bitcoin Cash. It's not just a word, it's the whole history of a corporation taking over Bitcoin that should never be forgotten, otherwise we'll lose Bitcoin Cash too.

Each time somebody complains that "Bitcoin Cash" is too long is an excellent opportunity to teach them about how corporations stole "Bitcoin" from people and are trying to do it again and again.

EDIT2: FYI - try to search for "bcash" on Google and see what comes out. Do you really think Bitcoin Cash supporters would be happy to be associated with that (lies, propaganda and slander)? ("bcash is a scam" is repeated non-stop. Who has been scammed? You've decided that it's a good idea to invest and it didn't make you money... does it make it a scam? If Microsoft shares fall - does it make MSFT suddenly a scam? Or did a person investing make a bad decision?)

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4 years ago

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4 years ago

Ok, thanks! I'll update my comment.

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4 years ago

"bcash is a scam" is repeated non-stop

Exactly. The term has been poisoned by BTC'ers.

That started basically from day 1 when Bitcoin Cash was born.

I'm sooner going to say "BTC is no longer Bitcoin" or call BCH "Bitcoin" than I'm going to call it 'bcash' :-D

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