Drug use makes smart?

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4 years ago

Are you a drug user, an addict perhaps?

Some people are against drugs, others have no issues with it. Some are only against hard drugs (cocaine, LSD, and so on) and not against soft drugs (cannabis). It is not said that those who are against drugs ever used it or know how it feels to be high.

In several countries, it is recognized as a painkiller and you can even get it on prescription in the Netherlands.

What exactly is the problem people have with drug users? Is it the drug, the fact so many can not pull the brake in time, or the violence and corruption it triggers with which the whole society has to deal with?

Just like alcohol, drugs can do something for you. Some feel better, others feel miserable. It can kill pain, give you the wings to fly, the courage to jump off a cliff but it can also open the mind and make you more creative and give you brilliant ideas. At least that is what the world-famous psychiatrist Sigmund Freud stated (a part of his ideas can be found in his book "Über Coca").

Is it true what Freud said? Will the use of drugs - in Freud's case cocaine - give brilliant ideas to all of us good enough for the next Nobel prize?

Unfortunately, this is not the case. The biggest group of drug users start at a young age. They are not the smartest kids around and the use of cannabis, LSD, or cocaine will not level up their IQ. To those who hoped this is the case, they can forget about it. Drugs, especially an overdose of it, will only harm and take away the last piece of common sense and the will to stop in time.

A lot of research is done if it comes to drug use. Many wonders if there is a relationship between intelligence and the use of it. The results, knowing which people have the highest risk to start with it, can help to prevent drug addiction. Low educated people clearly use way more drugs than higher educated people.

The Dutch Trimbos Institution monitors the annual outcome among children till the age of 18 years old.

The Cardiff University in the UK investigated the relationship between intelligence and drug use at a higher age.

The outcome was the opposite of what the Trimbos Institution noted. The higher the IQ level at the age of ten years old the more drugs these highly intelligent people use after their 30's. What exactly their reason is, why intelligent people start using drugs, is not investigated. It might be partly explained by the fact they are more curious and came to a point they are looking for new adventures. Another reason might be their jobs. Certain jobs make it easier to discover and step into the world of drugs. The high(er) social class which many of them are raised by might have prevented an earlier drug use as well.

To higher educated people it's easier not to get addicted because the decision to use drugs is made measured and under completely different circumstances.

If Freud was right is something so far no one could prove. His drug use might have been nothing more than a way to forget about his own issues, a possibility to think in a different direction.

The Austrian Sigmund Freud wasn't the only one using drugs. He even promoted it. Steve Jobs (Apple) used LSD. Next to those two men, more smart guys could not do without a sniff or joint.

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4 years ago

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People that are again drug user tend to forget that medication is also a drug. When used in the correct way, it can help a lot of people. Some people need drugs to survive but some just use it as a getaway from their problems, which I do not think works well because of most drug abuse end ups in a hospital bed with brain damage. Being alive without being able to function as a normal human being.

I always meet a patient that needs 10 to 14 types of medication per day. Sometimes it causes drowsiness and sleepiness. They become dependant to their medication.

Drugs are actually good things if it is used properly.

There are reasons why each people takes the drug either abusing or as medication. I would find out about that reason first before jumping into conclusions. If I can get the information.

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4 years ago

I wonder if you have a specific drug in mind (Cocaine, LSD, Marihuana, Aspirin, Antibiotics, or?) which can benefit.

The problem with what doctors prescribe frequently has side-effects, more than one. Against those side-effects, medication is given too and in the end, you have your own pharmacy and smell like one. I have experience with that.

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4 years ago

Drugs are compounds that alter the states. May it be chemical which is Lysergic acid Diethylamide or Cannabis sativa, plant based. Now it varies why they use it. If beneficial why not?

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4 years ago

If it benefits why not but the question is when to stop. Will a user just use it at home and go to bed or will he give himself a shot cocaine and get in his car, drives in the opposite direction on the highway because he believes he is good and will survive?

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4 years ago

If beneficial why not?

because there can be a slippery slope from beneficial to destructive. education and proper culture around drug use could lessen this problem. criminalization does the opposite: it increases the dangers associated with drug use.

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4 years ago

These lessons would be a good start. What doctors prescribe is not healthy either and there are plenty of these drugs which make you hallucinate too. Next to the fact, the first antibiotics were mushrooms and there is a culture where it's used wisely.

The main problem is clearly those who can not stop.

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4 years ago

I agree. I hope we have a better world. Where one does not need venturing on the outside in finding a fix because you should face distortions within. That is true intelligence.

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4 years ago

True intelligence is but the "issue" here is too High Intelligence. What makes these people, frequently the underdog of the society, people with not much Social skills, decide to expirement with Cocaine, LSD etc?

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The higher the IQ level at the age of ten years old the more drugs these highly intelligent people use after their 30's.

interesting. did any specific drug stick out or was the increased use "across the board"

in general I think drugs should be viewed as medicine. if used correctly and Under the right circumstances, they have tremendous potential for healing and growth. if used inappropriately, they can do great harm.

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4 years ago

No, there wasn't any particular drug stick out but I would love to know that too. As far as I understood more investigation will be done on this subject.

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Every type of drug has basic property: slows down blood circulation, heart beat and stimulating brain. Danger: Continue stimulating brain could damage neuron cells for long time and later on one couldn't remember oneself identity!! This is what happened to everyone who gets addicted. Unconscious of surrounding, living in different dimensions and away from reality or died from abnormal health. Yes, it is true that drugs can be taken as medicine if taken in very small amount.

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4 years ago

I think if you are dying anyway, suffering from cancer, the amount no longer counts. Just a pity it rarely seems to work for these people.

The question remains: was Freud right or did he just try to find an excuse for using cocaine on a regular base?

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4 years ago

you must be talking about some specific drug here? cause all the ones I know about do not have this effect.

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4 years ago

why are you deleting your posts?

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Sorry I'm confused with my comments so I deleted it don't want to discuss further about it..

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4 years ago

No need to be confused. Every opinion or thought counts and can help others to think about it or reconsider that what they already thought. There are so many drugs. Interesting question might be too why we consider some as dangerous but those a doctor prescribes as normal.

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4 years ago

yes, and the question also remains why alcohol and tobacco, 2 of the most harmful drugs, are widely accepted. I'm guessing because it's just to many users to be able to forbid those. also maybe the effects of those on people are more compatible with the aim to control the population and lull then into their slavish work. imagine if most people took psychedelics regularly... hard to control those free thinkers and open spirits. very dangerous for three establishment. we've seen the beginnings in the 60s on the us West Coast. it was quickly stopped before it spread too widely.

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4 years ago

you make very bold blanket statements about drugs

Every type of drug has basic property: slows down blood circulation, heart beat and stimulating brain.

this is easily refuted by taking some Cocaine and then measuring heart rate.

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4 years ago

With drugs as with everything, there is a difference between use and abuse. The problem is that people so easily cross that borderline and end up in abuse.

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And that is, according to the scientists, the difference between low and high educated people and those with a low(er) IQ and the High intelligence ones.

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Yes, and that makes sense. The more intelligent ones understand better that the borderline exists, and can easier identify it and thus avoid to cross it.

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4 years ago

agreed. any suggestions on how to deal with this problem? obviously prohibition and criminalization of drug users does not work.

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4 years ago

No I do not have a suggestion. It depends on the user and kinds of drugs if it benefits or harms. The question here was if it makes you more intelligent (answer no, you will not be smarter) and if you get better ideas (I doubt it's something we will never know for sure).

I can imagine if drugs (painkillers etc included) are used are used it makes it able to function better, perhaps it gives the great ideas? I once read writing while being drunk makes you a better writer. Might be it works for some but if only for those who can already write.

I am not against drugs but if keep it private. Do not harm others with it.

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4 years ago

Not really. As you say, prohibition and criminalization doesn't help, it has never helped anywhere in the world or any time in history. Instead it tends to make it worse, because of the criminal framework that grows up around production and distribution, which brings with it so much more bad things. Illegalisation also makes drugs expensive, which makes it necessary for an abuser to become a criminal in order to get his hand on a sufficient amount of cash to finance his abuse, so there are many secondary victims.

But how to deal with it; I don't now if it can be dealt with, because abuse is a part of the human nature and some individuals are not strong enough not to cross the borderline between use and abuse. We can see that on so many other things as well, such as gambling, or even eating.

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4 years ago

Agree... Smoking and alcohol is a good example too. Alcohol is expensive where I live still people buy it in high amounts. There are countries where alcohol and cigarettes can only be bought in a government shop. The same can be done with drugs. If this is something you like to use pay for it, go to a shop just like others buy whiskey or cigarettes or chocolate.

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