Why there should be a separation of religion and state?

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Disclaimer: This article is not intended to target any religion or group and is just a thought piece about politics and governance.

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The inflation and depreciation of currency in Turkey

On 19th December 2021 Turkish Lira fell to 16.66 TRY to 1 USD where as at the time of writing this video it is about 12.45 TRY to 1 USD

However, on 1st September 2021 it was 8.28 TRY to 1 USD

Here's the 1 year chart of the TRY to USD chart

This isn't the first time the Turkish Lira has lost its value

What we see today is the Second Turkish Lira, what happened to the first?

The First Turkish Lira was introduced in 1923 that replaced the Ottoman Lira, However the First Turkish Lira became so devalued that The Guinness Book of Records ranked the Turkish lira as the world's least valuable currency in 1995 and 1996, and again from 1999 to 2004.

So, in 2005 the government just removed 6 zeros from its currency and called it the second Lira.

Essentially in 2005 the Lira was 1 USD = 1,350,000 Lira but by removing the 6 zeros it became: 1 USD = 1.35 Second Lira

Which is just putting a fancy new cover over your broken down sofa.

Why is the Turkish Lira is falling?

Basically bad economics by the government, best summarized in the video by TLDR News Global video linked below

But basically, the President Erdogan refuges to increase the interest rate in response to the rising inflation as conventional economics suggests

Now at first it may look like it is some unorthodox method or bad economics or even a conspiracy of some secret information Erdogan may have that he thinks is in the best interest of the country and the people's well being.

No, it isn't that but because interest rates aren't Islamic

Here's the article from Bloomberg where it is said that Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan pledged to continue cutting interest rates, referring to Islamic proscriptions on usury as a basis for his policy.

This is the reason why religion should be separated from state

Because, people's savings are getting eroded overnight just because of one man's religious believe.

If you check the video above you'll see the ground report where people describe their plight as they go to sleep and the next day the prices of basic things have increased.

Whereas the person responsible for destroying the lives of so many people is living comfortably.

Even if someone tries to fix the issue then he is removed from his position.

Why are interest rates unislamic?

Does it really matter? Is some idea from thousands of years ago is more important than people lives.

But in case you are curious then here's the extract from the wikipedia article on Riba

Riba is an Arabic word that can be roughly translated as "usury", or unjust, exploitative gains made in trade or business under Islamic law. Riba is mentioned and condemned in several different verses in the Quran.

That is why many Muslim countries have the concept of Islamic Banking which is just a different was doing the same thing through the loophole of not calling it interest. Just think of it as grabbing your left ear by your right hand instead of grabbing you left ear by your left hand.

Turkey is becoming a shinning example

How mixing religion and politics is a bad idea.

Note: Again this article isn't against any religion or group and respects everyone's beliefs.

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Those two worlds always collide. We cannot just put away someones beliefs. I do not know much of your country but I think it is in a great crisis right now. Keep safe.

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One should not put away their beliefs, but as an elected representative of 83 million people, he is elected to lead the country towards people's welfare.

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There is a one-to-one relationship between religion and politics. The two words are the cause of most fights among humans. Both are after money in the pretension of human rights. The ruling political parties don't care for the business growth of the citizens. That is why the currency price caps go down in many nations.

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I agree with you about the dominance of the secular administration in the countries, but the situation in Turkey is not just because of the religion forbidding interest, as you described. The same leader has been ruling the country for 20 years, if it had been approached from a religious point of view, he would have done this at the beginning of his office. Currently, the country's economy is in a crisis caused by many factors, and when administrative errors are added to this, it has an extremely fluctuating rate. That's why there is an increase in high inflation and unemployment levels, great successes were achieved in the economy by making too many truths in the past with the same administration, now the same administration is in error. We do not know how long this will last, we expect the bad trend to be stopped and we want to achieve economic comfort. There is a very different story of removing 6 zeros from money, there is a success and an action taken after success. Also, Turkey's currency is Lira, there is no such thing as the first or second lira. Only on the days when 6 zeros were removed from the money, "New Turkish Lira" was added next to the phrase "Lira" during the transition period for coins with 6 zeros and coins without 6 zeros. When coins with 6 zeros expire, the phrase New was removed and continued as Lira. I agree with the article that only the state administration should be Secular.

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I don't mind about you're msg that you want to Rise because you already about it and turkey is also you know, about Turkey tayyab Erdogan is family and brave other then president and nice man to make everything good .. I think I can't understand you my point of view don't mind my dearest friend

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I don't intend to be disrespectful but you should have added Turkey in your title. In most of the world there has been a separation of religion and state since the Renaissance. Turkey was better than that, yet the Ottoman Empire dreams of the current president, the education approach which lavishes indoctrination and the extreme nationalism with calls to increase wars and attack neighbours are all excused by an islamic agenda that feeds hatred and keeps the sheep occupied.

I'm sure Turkey can do a lot better, and to be more precise, Erdogan was completely different when 20 years ago took office. He was peaceful and communicating with neighbours, and a person other leaders could trust. Slowly he decented into yet another power hungry leader that will do anything to stay in office, even if this means condemning the Turkish population to a hundred years of poverty.

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In most of the world, yes, but not in all of it. This article isn't about Turkey, but the idea of seperation of religion and state as a general sense. Turkey is just an example what can go wrong when such countries go down that path.

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