how much i save by living rent free

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3 years ago

before you proceed with this article, do note that this caters mainly to readers who want to achieve financial freedom, achieve f.u. money, retire early (or not), being a minimalist, a frugalist, a money hoarder, a crazy financial retail investor, etc. why? because living a "normal" life is too boring for me.

yup. i live with my parents. rent-free.

this gives me a massive edge on any debts i owe, saving boat loads of money, have a much larger liquid investing buying power for any assets, f.u. money or buying whatever i want.

but my goal is to simply reach financial freedom through the means of saving all this money by investing heavily into crypto and/or stocks.

lets do a breakdown on how much money i save and investing looks like:

my rent cost (for a 600 sqft apartment): $1124/month = $13,488/year

the average new yorker rent cost (in my area specifically): $1658/month = $19,896/year (for a 643 sqft apartment)

putting the $13,488/year savings all in on bitcoin when the rate was $10,000/btc at once.

today in march 2021, the amount invested would be a total of $62,044.80 at the rate of $56,000/btc which is a 460%+ gain in profits.

this is essentially what happened to me, but the example above is just a simplification version of the actual situation since the rates, fees, timing, and amount invested is far too complicated to keep track of. but nonetheless, the gains are incredible!

and this is why i live with my parents for the time being.

ill be able to reach financial freedom far quicker than the average joe. i could cash out and throw my gains into safe blue-chip dividend stocks that'll give me guaranteed steady income every month or so or i could just simply hodl bitcoin until it reaches $1 million/btc and make bigger moves then. sky is not the limit.

regardless, my conviction for bitcoin is very strong. i believe in it long-term, which is why i still continue to dollar cost average into bitcoin whenever possible. your conviction could be in bch, eth, ltc, or even stocks, etc. to each to their own.

your conviction to any investment is one of the most important factors. understand the fundamentals of what you're investing into, why you are investing into it and enjoy the gains. then use those gains to put into safe producing dividends when you feel you should cash out. always plan out accordingly.

bitcoin isn't my only invested asset, but for the sake of this article, we'll only keep it to bitcoin for simplification.

and saving money on rent all year is also not the only thing i save lots of money on. just imagine me saving on not having a car, not having to buy gas, not having to travel to work, not having kids, not have a spouse. this is primarily based on my environment and conditions.

disclaimer: take this article with a grain of salt, im not a financial advisor, nor am i here to brag about my wins. but these are the fortunate things that im dealt with. and i only hope that you can gain inspiration from this article.

while your situation is different than mine, its all about working with what you got and making the best of it.

its about being creative and how to optimize your situation to save all the money possible. you must be adaptable to your environment. working smarter than working harder, but that's only if you're like me who wants to reach financial freedom in the shortest amount of time possible. everyone's goals are different, so you may or may not resonate with my article.

i plan on reaching financial freedom in no more than 3 years. where i generate dividend income without having to do anything. as long as my supplemental expenses are covered by dividends, i will then consider myself financially free.

so when people say "a penny saved is just a penny saved", i would disagree with this sentiment and now you see why.

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And what do you do if BTC price collapses and doesn't recover, which is very likely?

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3 years ago

you dont lose anything until you sell. the best way to hedge against a price collapse is to sell every now and then to take profits, depending on a system that you wish to create for yourself. however, im extremely bullish on btc, ill even hold and buy more throughout a bear market too.

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3 years ago

I suspect you are optimistic in the short term. If you are optimistic in the longer term, what is your optimism based on? BTC can't be used for anything, it's useless. Do you really believe that something useless can have a high price in the long run? Don't you think that at some point people will say: I don't want to buy something useless because I can't find anyone to sell something useless to at a higher price?

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3 years ago

my optimism is based on the global adoption thanks to the giant institutions that are now storing their wealth into btc. if not btc, where else should or would institutions and whales store their money to combat inflation? (especially with government stimulus going on). to have an inflationary asset or deflationary asset?

btc is the people's currency, we give its value as a society and so far the momentum is steady and becoming normalized now. its only useless if people lose faith and deem it unworthy, otherwise it will be deemed as valuable due to its scarcity.

btc at this point isn't meant for spending, just like i wouldn't carry around gold bricks to pay for daily transactions. however, btc is the leading cryptocurrency nonetheless, regardless if there's better forks of btc or other blockchain projects.

btc is the mascot and introduction for crypto. for example, it's btc that will lead people to know that bch is better for daily transactions so people may start using bch then or any other crypto that's feasible for daily transactions with the least amount of fees and redundant speed.

btc is only meant for storage of value and preserving wealth. it can be spent/transferred but with large amounts. to send a $1 million dollars across the world peer to peer, no middlemen, with about a ~$15 network fee is absolutely reasonable. but not for buying $5 coffee.

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3 years ago

The idea of Bitcoin was to become the people's currency. Bitcoin was on its way to becoming a people's currency. Until 2016, it even looked like it could work. But BTC is no more people's currency. BTC has become a highly speculative asset, something like a stock that is increasingly in the hands of banks and institutions.

BTC is highly speculative and completely unsuitable for storing serious money there in the long term. The price can rise very quickly and fall quickly. Institutional investors will quickly withdraw money if they find better and safer opportunities elsewhere. The fact that something is limited in number says nothing about the value. I can create limited 100 tokens that are worthless. look at BTC dominance, it is falling steadily in the long term. And it will continue to fall, it is inevitable because the coin is technically poor and useless. At some point the price peak will be reached, at which point the sell-off will take place. It can happen tomorrow, in a month, in a year or maybe in five years, but BTC is simply worse than many cryptos and that is why it has to lose in the long run. History has always been that the worse loses in the long run. It will be no different here. It's sad that I have to say this, but Bitcoin BTC unfortunately took the wrong way in 2016 / 2017 during the great debate. It did not have to happen this way.

Maybe there will be a second chance and Bitcoin Cash will become a real people's currency. We will see.

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3 years ago

btc was speculative in the 2017 crash for sure, but now it's starting to become normalize because of institutions and the fact that people are starting to lose faith in the us dollar.

btc's dominance hasn't fallen, so im not sure what you're talking about there. market cap just recently hit $1 trillion and its still going. its #1 on coinmarketcap. im sure btc will have its peak eventually but so far we're not at the end of the bull run. as bullish as i am long term, im always making sure i do my due diligence with research, what major institution is buying next, daily news, etc. we're barely even done.

dont sway from the point of the article, I'll eventually cash out some btc and throw it into another safer asset. so having btc forever isn't the absolute end goal.

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3 years ago

btc was speculative in the 2017 crash for sure

There was no crash in 2017, crash came in 2018

btc's dominance hasn't fallen, so im not sure what you're talking about there.

You are wrong. You may be looking at it in the short term. I'm looking at it in the long term. In the long term, BTC dominance has fallen continuous and will continue to fall. You can see it clearly here.

https://coinmarketcap.com/charts/

I don't know how long you've been interested in Bitcoin, but I've been around for a long time and I think long term. In the long term, BTC is a dead end because it is technically broken.

I'll eventually cash out some btc and throw it into another safer asset. so having btc forever isn't the absolute end goal.

Sooner or later, everyone will do that. And they will not only sell something, but they will sell the most to secure the profits. That is the problem with BTC. People don't buy it to use it. They buy it to sell it for higher price someday. The BTC buyers are not interested in BTC, they are interested in profits. When BTC stops delivering the profits, which will inevitably happen at some point, everyone will drop it like a hot potato and the coin will die. That may happen in a month, in a year, or in five years, but it will inevitably happen because there is no use behind BTC. There is nothing behind BTC, just speculation.

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3 years ago

i still dont agree, but thats fine. we could agree to disagree and see how it plays out (we just hit $60k ath btw). im a computer science major and ive known about btc since around 2012. but became a buyer in 2017 when it started to gain more traction.

it would be difficult for bch to be used without the leverage of btc. thats just my opinion. as btc is the mascot and leading cryptocurrency as of now. im sure in the future btc will lose its dominance to a new winner.

when i said 2017 crash, i was referring to the peak of that cycle.

do you really think btc will go back to $40k, $30k, $20k, $10k, $0? what is your target number that it will drop too and where will the top be? just curious.

just as i said before, no one is going to use gold bars to buy things just as the same with btc. btc is only and only for storage of value just exactly like gold. we just wont make jewelry with btc, but the whales will leverage btc as storage to pass on as inheritance.

dont forget that whales are the biggest holders of btc. do you really think they would all liquidate for profits? some, absolutely, but most hold. retail investors are a smaller portion of buyers and sellers. retail investors are highly likely to sell off for profit which would barely make a dent on the price fluctuation. lets not also forget that whales buy on the otc market so there's no slippage in retail markets.

who do we depend on for these rising prices in btc? whales. and i trust that whales will rather have btc than fiat currency.

i wouldn't sell all my btc, i would liquidate a portion only.

as with anything else, of course btc is for profits and/or maintaining wealth.

the whales are using it to maintain wealth, why else would they buy it for? they dont want to hold melting ice cubes.

in short: btc: gold for storage of value. bch: dollars to buy things every day.

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3 years ago

do you really think btc will go back to $40k, $30k, $20k, $10k, $0? what is your target number that it will drop too and where will the top be? just curious.

Something between 10k and 0 (0 if the chain collapses, which is possible)

the whales will leverage btc as storage to pass on as inheritance.

Possibly, they will then say to the descendants, look BTC was worth this much dollars in 2021 and I didn't switch to coin XYZ in time. (assuming the BTC chain even lives that long. You must not forget that mining will become unprofitable at some point when the price falls sharply).

just as i said before, no one is going to use gold bars to buy things just as the same with btc. btc is only and only for storage of value just exactly like gold.

Many valuable things can be made from gold, for example jewellery. Without this property, gold would be worth nothing. BTC does not have this property, so it will be dropped as soon as a better crypto overtakes BTC, which will certainly happen.

dont forget that whales are the biggest holders of btc. do you really think they would all liquidate for profits?

When the price starts to go down, they will not have profits, they will have losses. They will want to minimise the losses. Whales can manipulate a lot, but they won't be able to stop the decline. .

who do we depend on for these rising prices in btc? whales. and i trust that whales will rather have btc than fiat currency.

I have never spoken about fiat. They will dump BTC in time and buy another coin (or coins).

in short: btc: gold for storage of value.

This cannot work for one very simple reason. There are already BTC transactions that cost $5,000. Look here:

https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/3b8e46b46d5b901669ab6499475b3bb68f0b798607d19844257fb3aa6f0a7f7a

This is still an exception for the moment, but if BTC should really become a store of value on a large scale and the price and number of transactions should rise sharply, the transaction fees will increase immeasurably. They will not cost $10 or $15 on average, but $100, $1000, $10000 and even more. That will make transactions impossible for the vast majority of people.

Besides, there are already between 50,000 and 100,000 unconfirmed BTC transactions all the time. The mempool is constantly close to 100MB. The network is already at its limit. See for yourself:

https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#BTC%20(default%20mempool),3m

If BTC price continues to rise and attract more people, there will be even more transactions. How should the network process it? That can't work at all. For that reason alone, the coin will die.

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3 years ago

lets see how this pans out then.

we definitely will hit a top, thats for sure. but as for the bull run finishing, not yet.

i still think we wont have a coin to overtake btc anytime soon, it will happen tho. probably in the next bull run after this bull run.

at the very least, im more than happy to hold some btc and profit on some of my btc from time to time. this is digressing from the article itself because at the end of all, i only want to lock in profits to securely allocate it into different safer asset classes.

i still am huge on btc because no matter the flaw of its properties, btc is still known by the global population. nobody talks about bch or other altcoins as much regardless of its features being better than btc. maybe doge, maybe eth but thats its. why are apple products more popular than android?, although androids have more capability than apple products. because its in the marketing, the solution, the disruption, ease of use, brand loyalty, overall trend, etc.

and later on, bch might over btc,. who knows? follow the trend and profit, that's it. lets not overcomplicate this debate.

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i still am huge on btc because no matter the flaw of its properties, btc is still known by the global population. nobody talks about bch or other altcoins

Ignoring the facts is not a good strategy. Can you explain to me how BTC is supposed to work if a lot of people really rush into it?

why are apple products more popular than android?,

Firstly, because they have the first mover advantage and secondly, more importantly, they are Technically better. BTC still has the first mover advantage, but this is dwindling. technically, BTC is far inferior to all coins, which is why it must and will go under.

I don't know when BTC will go down, if you speculate wisely in the short term you can certainly make a profit, but I think long term and don't bet a cent on this coin and don't even own it anymore.

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3 years ago

its not about ignoring the facts. i already see the facts and flaws. but the key is that btc is a momentum trend and thats a great way to monetize right now.

but a good strategy would be something like dollar cost averaging when selling versus selling all at once trying to time the top. timing the top is impossible, but thats a system for you. i would still keep some as i said before because btc will go through different cycles and i still believe in it long term.

if it goes to zero, then at least i know i sold some and hold some to hedge. ill still be okay with holding some.

i wont digress any further because it is beyond the scope of the article. you already know where i stand.

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