Perma-banned on r/btc Reddit

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1 year ago

I am admittedly not very active on Reddit. But now and then I do drop some links via my 3-year-old account to stories about economic freedom and crypto with a brief comment just to share. I've received a decent amount of upvotes and tips and comments considering the sparse posting, and of course engaged in the comments section when it seemed appropriate.

I was glad there was a Reddit where even "normies" (in terms of not being super active on the site) could post, and where the moderators weren't on a power trip as with the now infamous r/Bitcoin censorship.

I wasn't a "super user" at all, but of course am part of the greater BCH community, without a doubt.

Now, sadly, I've been permanently banned (and accused of lying, and had extra accusations piled on) by a single moderator who seems to just not like me, due to a mistake I made in posting. I feel disappointed about this. And very frustrated, to say the least. I'm not going back to Reddit. I don't feel it's my kind of place, especially now. Maybe it never was and that's why this happened. Was I a Reddit imposter? Maybe. I never thought I was being abusive, or merely link farming. As I said, people seemed to react positively to my articles.

Maybe I was though, according to Redditor ethos?

Anyway, for everyone's info, here's what happened. I don't think this is a good way to welcome people to the Bitcoin Cash community.

Tip for Reddit mods: If someone is unwelcome because they do not post often enough, please make what posting/commenting frequency is recommended to stay in your good graces a clear metric. People can go through my history of posts and see they are always about economic freedom and crypto in some way.

I would have had no issue with some direct, respectful dialogue about community ethos if I was running afoul. I get that. Instead I was called a liar and snarkily told to take a hike. And also that "there is no cost on your side." How do you know there is no cost to me? Nuts.

As I say. I won't forget it. Don't brag about being better than r/Bitcoin, either. Anyway, maybe I shouldn't have gone there to share my shit in the first place. I'm not welcome. Tried too hard.

To the other mod that was kind and human, cheers.




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1 year ago

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To the other mod that was kind and human, cheers.

I try. Can't please everyone. Happy that my words were seen as kind and human.

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1 year ago

So you were "MobTwo"? Why then did MobTwo say that the original dev (Thomas Zander) would need to revert?

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1 year ago

Reddit has a design blunder that encourages this sort of malevolence.
Use reddit only for occasional fact mining, if ever at all. The personalities that power reddit all have vampire egos.

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1 year ago

Thanks man, I get a similar impression. That is what I had been doing, with the occasional, typically well-received post. Probably not going back now. But that's for the better anyway.

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1 year ago

For clarity, it was not Thomas Zander who called you a liar, that was me.

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1 year ago

Hello, and thanks for letting me know. If you see Thomas' comment below, however, he strangely takes credit (maybe he didn't understand or read the post here?) for me thanking MobTwo for actually being kind.

So is TomZ actually MobTwo? Or was he just ignorant — or trying to be funny/snarky/slick? I've no idea.

Crappy experience. You guys might wanna get your shit together over there, all due respect.

Again, thanks for actually letting me know. No hard feelings but for real. What a mess for the "uncensored" bitcoin Reddit.

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1 year ago

No, TomZ is not MobTwo.

I do agree we have a mess "over there" though.

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1 year ago

Hey, this is MobTwo. I am really sorry about what happened. I wished you had not deleted the reddit account. Sometimes the mods will have discussions and disagreements among ourselves and we would try to come to some consensus and reverse the actions taken. These usually takes a few days. In your case, before I could even have a discussion going, I realize your account was gone. It does sadden me when issues like this happen. I can only hope that you would at least accept my apology for what happened because as a mod, I am also responsible for it.

With regards to the "lies" comment, it was a different mod (not me nor ThomasZander) and there were some serious miscommunications. Again, by the time I wanted to sort out the miscommunications and explain about what happened, I realize your account was already gone. I know you're upset and I can understand why. The mod team is made up of very different/diverse people and as I shared, even internally we do disagree between ourselves and we have disagreements/discussions going on quite frequently.

I hope you don't stay upset. Sometime shit happens in life and we just have to laugh and move on. I appreciate what you do with regards to voluntarism and economic freedom. Keep up those good work!

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1 year ago

So you are not Thomas Zander, but just below he is claiming to be you (if he actually read my article here). This is all very weird and disappointing. Are you Zander? If not, I think some examination is needed there.

Yeah, I don't hold a grudge against you at all as you can see from my post here.

r/btc is supposed to be the place where folks can still go and not be censored. If anything I posted was off-topic a simple warning or DM would have sufficed. I feel like I'm the last person that oughta be kicked out of a BCH-centric group. I use the stuff every month — trade, support businesses, give it away, write articles about it, etc. I mean, sheezus.

Again, this is not about you. But please read Zander's comment below and help me understand.

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1 year ago

I'm not Thomas Zander. The way I see it, he probably misinterpreted what you had wrote. I can't read his mind (why he wrote the way he wrote) but anyway, I think you could probably tell from the different writing styles anyway.

Reading back again, I think the most likely explanation is that TomZ thought you were angry at the "liar" comment (from ShadowOfHarbringer) and therefore the "other mod that was kind and human" was him (TomZ). I think it's down to misreading what you had wrote.

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1 year ago

That may be, but the chat logs show it was him who banned me, regardless. Instead of addressing that, he comes here to make a misinformed comment and leaves me with this:

:-)

Nothing about "Hey man, I see now you didn't mean to double post. Sorry for banning you, let's see what we can do." And no answer about not being MobTwo.

What a joke. It's like some real middle school shit.

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1 year ago

I understand what you mean. I can see the situation from your perspective. I prefer not to criticize other folks (unless I really had to). I would prefer to have friends rather than enemies. Anyway, I appreciate the conversation, thank you for your work and if we both keep working on BCH stuff, then we will likely cross path in real life someday.

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1 year ago

I understand. But I'm the one who got called a liar after all, and permanently-banned for an honest mistake.

Yes, I hope we can continue working to make the world more free with peer-to-peer permissionless exchange.

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1 year ago

There are more than 2 mods, you seem to think that all the good came from one and all the not-so-well-worded came from me. That is not so. As I wrote in my other comment, the "kind and human" comment was in actual fact from me (the z in tomz stands for Zander) :-)

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1 year ago

You're not MobTwo. The kindness comment was directed to him. I see now that you are neither of the commenters, but indeed you are the one who banned me as the chat logs pictured show.

Instead of any attempt to rectify my mistaken ban because I posted twice, or to communicate to fix the situation, you come here and start typing smileys to (ostensibly) assume I'm complimenting you. Got it.

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1 year ago

As per MobTwo's comment above, I see that there are more than two, and know that also from the list of mods openly available on Reddit.

My comments about the kind mod ("To the other mod that was kind and human") were explicitly and obviously directed at MobTwo as you can see in the post. So you are not MobTwo? If not, why horn in here? Very fucking weird.

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1 year ago