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Child Support
If a woman decides to have a child for a man after he clearly told her he didn’t want one, do you think the man should be responsible for the child and pay child support. If she forces him or tricks him into having a child, what do you think the man should do? Pls comment 🤗
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If it is really his child, tricked or not he have to take responsibility
Pls can you explain why?
If it is truly his child, it's his blood and flesh, even if he don't want to have one but they did it to have one, of course the man should take responsibility as well as the woman
They didn’t do it to have a child, he told her clearly he didn’t want a child and she said she was okay with it only for her to tell him later that she is having his child.
Then it's not his child?
So do you think that a woman forcing a man to have a child when he doesn’t want it will be good or bad for the child? If a man tricks a woman to get pregnant for him and forces her to have the child for him when she doesn’t want it do you think it’s her choice to have the child or not? If she abort the child can he sue her since it’s his child? Do you think she should take responsibility for the child?
Let's just focus on your question about the man and his decision of not having a child. I don't quite get your idea of a woman tricking a man like what? Ahm trick him to drink alcohol then do the thing? But you said earlier they didn't do that to have one, what kind of tricks can a woman pull into a man?
Some women lie that they are on the pill knowing fully well they aren’t and they let the man have sex with them without protection.
See? But they did it. I can't even see a man being force there. They both took pleasure. How irresponsible a man can be knowing that they did such thing, under pills or whatsoever when a woman bear a child it's both their responsibility, if he didn't take responsibility then he's not man enough and he's a jerk(sorry this is my opinion huehue but he appear to be a jerk to me🤧😅)
Is he really a jerk? What are his choices? Even if he stays to take care of the child, he won’t love the mother and when that happens the women tries to turn the child away from the man or tries to get that love from the child. That is still a dysfunctional family, it’s still not the same as when the man and women both want the child. So would you rather have a man that stays and is miserable but not a jerk? Or just don’t trick men into having kids cause it never turns out good for the child or family. You can’t force love no matter how hard you try, nobody is right the situation was created by the woman, by tricking him she has shown that she is not trust worthy, how can he love someone he doesn’t trust. If he isn’t man enough and he isn’t a real man, then she too is also not a real woman.
So the bottom line, don't have sex if you don't want to carry the responsibility, not all protection turn out that a woman will not get pregnant, the moment you do it you should expect it. Call me old school but sex is not something you should do just for pleasure, if the woman do it to have a child even the man don't want to have a child then maybe she just want to have a child and it'll be okay with her even the man won't take responsibility. What i can see in the situation, the man just want sex but the woman want a child. Not all children who doesn't have a father will be lonely we can't underestimate a mother's love.
Absent fathers are bad and toxic mothers are also bad. The world we live in today most people have sex for fun not children and that okay that’s human nature. Let’s just be honest with ourselves and avoid these kind of situations, if it happens as a mistake the man can understand and decide to stay but if she tricked him and lied to him then she must bear the consequences of that which can sometimes include the man leaving, it doesn’t make him a bad human being. I find it funny when people say the man is a jerk cause sometimes he later meets a woman he really likes and becomes a great father to their child and family.
How can a man hate his own child, that's sad trick or not it's his own how can he hate a child and love another
He doesn’t hate the child, he hates the situation, she knew he wasn’t going to have a choice but to take care of the child whether he wanted it or not. It’s one thing to have a child with the wrong woman and it’s another thing to stay with the woman and child. Also the fact that she expects him to pay her money for the child when he didn’t want it is really bad. If she wants the child so badly and he doesn’t she should leave him out of it and take care of the child by herself and not expect any money from him. If he decides to do it then she should be happy but it shouldn’t be by force and she shouldn’t call him a bad father. It’s his choice at the end of the day.
Then i guess you should've include more details about the situation in your post. You didn't say that the woman is getting angry because the man won't give her money for support, if money is all the woman want then she's at fault. But saying that having a child with the wrong woman? Then don't have sex with the wrong one if you don't see her as a mother of your child don't in any circumstances do it with her.
She is doing it so that the man will be forced to either stay with her or pay her to take care of the child. I just think it’s wrong to lie to a man and force him to have a child with you and now he has to keep paying you to take care of the child whether he wants to or not.
I understand if you see it like that😊 and i just think it's wrong to have sex if you're not married. I had a great time exchanging opinions tho we differ way after another. I had a great time!😊
I agree with a lot of points you’ve made too, I just empathize with the man and try to see his own side of the situation. I wouldn’t like to lied to about something like that that would change my life forever. Thanks for your feedback 🤗
We differ in opinion maybe because of a difference in culture. I grew up in a surrounding where sex is not for fun so i find it absurd to not expect a child after doing such thing, they are not even married
In a lot places in the world today women take all sorts of birth control everyday just so they can have sex for fun. Im even surprised to hear that there are people that do it only for children.
Regarding your next question abortion is illegal in different countries so of course a man can sue a woman if it she did it, it is punishable by law
And of course it will not be good for the child if his father is just forced and he is not willing to have a child. If i am the woman, if that man don't want my child, our child, then okay get lost (😅 ) i don't want an unlovable father of my child it will just ruin his/her life
Exactly! He shouldn’t be forced to love the child if he doesn’t want to, the child would grow up to hate him.
I wonder if such a father exist. Fail to give father love to child because he didn't want to, even if didn't take responsibility the child will live his/her life questioning what's wrong that he/she don't have a father. If the unlovable father is on his side he'll live all his life in pain. Both circumstances hurt the child, this making me sick :<
Sad 😢.. Im a Mother of two but no support from their father since we got separated 17yrs ago..
That’s really sad
True.. But we're fine with my kid's now..life go on.
I like your positive mindset, keep thinking like that 👌
Thanks
Morally I believe both parents share equal responsibilities but legally it a no no no
It will incentivize women to have children with men cause they know the law would make sure he pays whether he likes it or not.
As long as he is indicated in the child birth certificate he has the obligation for the child. There's a lot of cases like that in Raffy Tulfo in Action. If the father failed to do his obligation he can be in jailed for VAWC. Violence again women and children act
Do you think it’s okay for a woman to lie to a man and trick him into having a child? To Lie that she is on birth control when she is not? Is it okay for her to have a child for the man after he specifically told her he doesn’t want it and she agreed? Is it okay for the man to sue her for going against their agreement? Or men shouldn’t believe women when they tell them things cause it can turn out to be a lie? Doesn’t that make women extremely untrustworthy and liars especially when the guy has money and they know the law will force him to pay. How can he ever trust any woman’s word in this world? Doesn’t it make women look untrustworthy? Wouldn’t that law make women do more things like this to wealthy men just because they know the law will back them? I am a woman and this kind of woman that can do this to a man is an extremely horrible human being to me and does not deserve any love from that child or the father, she should not be allowed to raise any child with that kind of mindset. Why would anyone want to bring a child into this world like that? I can’t see how it’s right or good for the man or child or family in any way.
It is just according to the law. But in case that the woman just trick her I think its up to the father because even if he dont want it or he was tricked by the woman he will not erase the fact that his blood run to the child.
Most men love their children but this not about the child, this is about the woman, in most cases the man will care for the child but he would never ever love the woman and eventually she would start turning the child away from the father, telling the child lies about their father meanwhile she is the one that lied about having the child. imagine someone robbing you of your money just because they know you cant do anything about it or when a woman gets raped by a man, he is taking away her rights whether she likes it or not. Having a child for a man whether he wants it or not is taking away his rights too.
I get it know.
I think We should all work towards creating a stable family for our children and avoid such situations 🤗
yes I agree. Children would be the one who suffer if we cant create a stable family.
they should come to an understanding because if the child become problem to maintain their family in future... the husband will blame wife... so both should come to a common solution..
No man can force a woman or trick her to have a child for him, why is this allowed and acceptable for women?
that's not acceptable too... if one side is not happy and there is no balance... the family and child both can't be happy
Exactly! It creates a dysfunctional family and it hurts the child a lot! A father that loves you and your mother is very different family from a father that hates your mother and hates the fact that she tricked him to have you. He may take care the child cause it’s his blood but now he also has to be giving money to a woman he hates, I’ve seen a lot of wealthy men in this situation, they hate the fact that she has tied him down to her forever with this child. How do you tell your child that this is how your mother brought you to this world? That child would grow up to hate the woman too for ever putting him in that situation. The whole thing is just wrong, women should just have children with men that want it, simple.
well i do not support this kind of act..... that is not called family.... he could have rent a prostitute to have a child... pay her and leave with his child.... it's more logical than that.. nobody has to suffer.... bt evey child needs mom... so try to balance is important
A family where the father and mother are together and love each other is the best for any child. I know that may not be easy in this world right now but I think more people should still try their best to work towards that and create a stable family for their children 🤗
most times, the woman is left to take care of the child alone. I can say that we are not new to this. but I feel that whether the man was forced or tricked into having a child, A CHILD SHOULD NEVER BE LEFT LIKE THat BY THE FATHER JUST BECAUSE HE DIDN'T HAVE THE BABY ON PURPOSE. no child deserves that. Children should never be made to suffer such. Whether he was tricked or not, every child deserves to be cared and taken care of. For me, I think that he should look past that anger and love and care for that child no matter what.
There are many women that have done this and many men that have stayed no matter what. A child with parents in a loveless relationship can't be a happy child
Most men accept the child and care for them but now we’ve seen women turn this into a money making opportunity, having children for different wealthy men for money/child support
No child deserves to come to this world in a situation like that. The woman is a toxic person and a liar and extremely untrustworthy and doesn’t deserve any love from that child or man. If she can lie about something as serious as this then she can do worst things! IT SHOULD BE HIS CHOICE IF HE WANTS TO TAKE CARE OF THE CHILD OR NOT! TO ME, IT IS EXTREMELY WRONG TO FORCE THE MAN TO DO ANYTHING! SHE SHOULD TAKE CARE OF THE CHILD IF SHE WANTS IT THAT BADLY AND LEAVE THE MAN OUT OF IT!
from a man's point of view, it shouldn't matter what she pulled to get to this situation and it wont. the second he meets baby he will want to be involved. just communicate with each other and remember it's about baby not you nor any animosity towards one another.
That’s the problem here, why would you do that to anybody just because you know they won’t have a choice and the law will punish them if they don’t do it. It’s a wicked thing to do. That’s a wicked woman
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