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Questions about mining

Why do so many that are veterans in the crypto community say that cloud mining and contract mining are all scams? If tat it's so widely known, then why are so many doing it? How do people make money in this type of mining? I understand what they are paying for, mostly. But I need some examples of how it actually plays out. Examples of what they get paid and how often. I don't understand why the people they are paying even want to do it this way unless they're using the customers as a loan. But if they ever successfully mine even 1 block, after that they shouldn't need a loan. What about mining for BCH? Do you have to mine bitcoin to do that? ................................................................................................................... I feel like I have a bunch of questions that I'm not able to put into words. Part of the problem is most people that write about crypto related stuff just explain the same stuff as everyone else. I end up reading the same info over and over just put into different words. There is either a bunch of fundamental information missing or difficult for the general public to find, or I'm really unlucky at finding it or an oblivious moron lol. Whenever I attempt to dig deeper I run into reading stuff that may as well not even be English. I've been reading a lot about mining and other crypto stuff off and on for a few years now. I feel like they always start out like they're explaining things to 1rst. graders, then next paragraph they're talking to seniors. Why are they all like that? Whenever I come to understand this stuff [finally] I pledge to remedy this problem. Thanks in advance for your time in reading and answering my questions. This is wonderful community with a collectively big heart!

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