I know i have said this before and please be candid enough to tell me if I am moaning about something that I should "man up" to. - I am not Polish but have been living in Poland for nearly 20 years - While far from being perfect my Polish is functional (conversationally B1+ with grammar mistakes) with the only exception being my immediate Polish family as they expect perfection and are quick to criticise and make little or no allowance* for the fact that I have (and never have had time to learn Polish properly - even more so now BabyRah is about). MamaRah dedicated 8 years of study to the highest level of English, lives with me and works in an Anglophone environment. * Two things on this - there is nothing wrong with simplifying so long as correct forms are still used - eg in English "I have bought a new car" (Present Perfect) compared to "I bought a new car yesterday" (Past Simple - and a simpler but equally correct form). Funnily enough my mother in law is best at this as she does slow down a little and try to find alternative phrasing to help me. Out of her and MamaRah and her father the Mother in Law is the one who understands me best and I her too. - I attempt to speak in Polish when I can and never have problems in making myself understood in a a wide variety of situations including in civic offices, shopping of all kinds when needing help, ordering food etc etc. - i acknowledge and accept that I am living in Poland and Poland should be the common language and when others speak in English with me it is a favour and should never be my expectation. Now here is what really has p++++d me off this week. My father in law got frustrated on BabyRah's birthday that he can't communicate with me. The matter in hand was slightly irregular and both MamaRah and her Mother have said he doesn't always communicate even clearly with them. The core of his frustration is that my Polish is less than perfect. Now, here goes. What really pushes my buttons is that in the 16 years I have known MamaRah they have never even attempted to say "Hello" in English or any other simple phrase. I don't expect this, but nor should they expect perfect Polish from me either. Their excuse is "I am too old to learn another language" - fair enough but I am not much younger now than they were when I met their daugther. Just really frustrates me - or am I just moaning unfairly. Just to finish my point Polish is extremely complicated - esp for somebody who is non-slavic and certainly English. Just look at all the variations of two in Polish.
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A bit fa$¢hi$t if you ask me. I am a Slovenian, so I know what a Slavic language is constructed. Hell, Slovenian even has dual (singular, dual, "low" plural for numbers ending in 3 and 4 and "high" plural for 5-9), we read numbers as Germans do (not 50 - 3, but 3and50 for 53 - gets complicated with 32.452.543 - 2and30 million, 4 houndret 2 and 50 tousant, 5 hundret 2and40). We have 6 cases (nominative, genitive, dative, accusative, locative, instrumental), and every rule of word formation, litterally every one, has exceptions. It is complicated. And the Polish pronouncination is not the simplest in the world. 🖖 Stand strong, don't let it bring you down.
Cases while they exist in English are so understated we don't even know what they are. Interestingly Polish has singular (1 of course), plural (2-4) and what I have always called "super plural" (5+). It is not the correct phrase but it aids a simple Englishman's understanding. i am only sorry I can't tip your encouraging post as I still am unable to due to noise's algorithm that stopped me some months ago. I hope it changes soon though
No worries mate. 😁 I like it a lot when people get incorporated and accepted. To have someone so close not being able to cross that line for some reason saddens me, but I understand when it angers you also. Perhaps the best way (perhaps the Polish way) is to get really drunk with some kind of cheap local spirit. It might even teach him some English phrases, 🤣😜😁
lol I got quite good at Albanian many many years ago (all forgotten now) by drinking the the town drunk!
Hehe, lessons of life.