@optimist
If you are really interested in what and more importantly why is happening in Russia and Ukraine, watch this programme by the famous Soviet film director Nikita Mikhalkov. It has been translated into several world languages for your convenience - English, French, German, Hindu, Italian, Japanese, Portuguese, Russian, Spanish and Ukrainian. https://disk.yandex.ru/d/tFhbkMiNW-wGWw I publish it in my community, where I only write about important and interesting things.
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Instead of posting propaganda videos, ask the people in Ukraine what it's really like there. https://noise.cash/u/Tata7585
Followed your link. There are a lot of fakes and inaccurate information.
How can you judge that the information are fakes? Do you live in Kiev, or do you only get the information from Putin's media?
I don't read Putin's media, nor do I read the Ukrainian media. I like independent analysts who are not biased by either side.
Thank you, but I am in touch with my friends from both Ukraine and Donbass. And they all tell the truth because they are eyewitnesses to what is happening around them. As for Mikhalkov, he hasn't said anything new or anything that could be challenged and said that he is cheating. But the propaganda that goes on in the world is off the charts in terms of fakes and misinformation.
I hope you are one of those Russians who do not support this invasion.
I do not support any military conflict as such, wherever it may be. What is happening in Ukraine now is only a consequence of the collapse of the USSR in 1991, when Ukraine was given land with a Russian-speaking population, the subsequent switch to Nazi ideology, attempts to join the NATO bloc and the eight-year civil war in Donbass. See Mikhalkov's film. There are no fakes in it and everything is explained accurately and factually.
>the subsequent switch to Nazi ideology I don't understand why you write such things. When I look at the behaviour of the Putin regime, it is rather a Nazi ideology. He glorifies Stalin and the use of violence. He has banned all independent media and opposition in Russia. He is a nationalist and wants to "spit out like mosquitoes" all those who stand in his way. I see a lot of parallels between Putin and Hitler. Russia today is unfortunately like Germany in 1939.
Have you not seen the torchlight processions in Kiev with Nazi slogans and glorification of Bandera and Shukhevich, those who murdered civilians in the 40s? Or is that acceptable Nazism for you? Well, tell me in which case it is acceptable to burn people alive, as it was in Odessa in 2014.
Yes, I have seen that, but that is a tiny minority that unfortunately exists in every country. In every country in the world well, unfortunately, there are right-wing radicals, the problem only becomes when Nazis are in power and that is unfortunately the case in Russia. Putin says that he wants to fight Nazism, but he himself is a Nazi.
Can you see the website, or has Putin banned it for you? If it is banned, I can take some screenshots so you can see what Putin's regime is doing to the Russians. You probably don't want to see what even is doing to the Ukrainians, and if you want, you will probably deny it. That's what most Russians do. They don't want to see the truth. But I understand it's not easy to accept that the army of your own country does such things. The Germans also believed in the Second World War that their army was liberating Soviet citizens from communism. https://ovdinfo.org/
I have spent eight years watching the Ukrainian military killing civilians in Donbass. The whole world turned a blind eye to it. What do you want from me now? No one has declared war on Ukraine, Ukraine has not declared war on anyone either. Doesn't that surprise you?
I cannot comment on the situation in Donbas because I do not have reliable information on it. I only know that Putin and Lavrov lie and Putin's propaganda lies. Just before the invasion Lavrov said that Russia will not invade Ukraine, and a few days later Russian tanks were in Ukraine. I don't believe a single word Putin and his Russian media. You haven't answered me if you can see the website. I suspect that you can't see it because Putin is cutting off the Russians from the real information. He has been lying to Russians for years and a lot of Russians believe his lies unfortunately. Putin will bring disaster to Russia like Hitler did to Germany. Many Germans did not understand before German cities were bombed, but then it was already too late. Wake up Russians before it is too late.
Yes, I see this site and all I want to see unlike you who take information about Ukraine one-sidedly. Here, it turns out you know nothing about Donbass either, where civilians have been killed for 8 years. You say Putin is a Nazi, but then tell me what nation he is a Nazi if there is not even a Russian republic in Russia and he himself is a Jew, just like Zelensky. You've only chosen the other side of propaganda, thinking it's real. But there are lies on both sides. Officially there is no war - it's all one big spectacle being played out according to the plan of those who are reformatting the world.
Putin is a Russian nationalist. He wants to rebuild a Greater Russia. He has often said so himself. But he is actually a fascist. Perhaps you can use Umberto Eco, who once named 14 points that characterise fascism. They are: 1) No room for the development of knowledge (traditionalism). 2) Rejection of modernism, irrationalism. 3) Cult of action for action's sake, suspicious attitude towards the intellectual world. 4) Consideration of dissent as a sign of treason. 5) Racism. 6) Seeking support primarily from the frustrated middle classes. 7) Nationalism, belief in conspiracy theories. 8) Seeing enemies as both extraordinarily strong and extraordinarily weak. 9) The recognition that pacifism is tantamount to fraternizing with the enemy, and viewing human life as an eternal struggle. 10) Contempt for the weak. 11) The cult of death. 12) The cult of masculinity, i.e. the dismissive attitude towards women and the ruthless persecution of any non-conformist sexual inclination. 13) The conviction that the individual has no rights as such, combined with an image of the nation as a monolith expressing a common will. 14) Newspeak Very many of these points, though not all, Putin embodies. So he is a not perfect fascist.
Why don't you look for fascists in Ukraine?
I have already written to you once that unfortunately there are fascists in all countries. But they are in the minority almost everywhere. The problem only arises when the fascists, like Putin or Hitler are in power, then they attack foreign countries and spread disaster. I know that it is difficult for the Russians to understand that Putin is a fascist, but the sooner the Russians understand it and get rid of him, the better for the Russians and for Russia.
Judging by the number of military conflicts unleashed in the world, the biggest fascist is in the U.S., but that doesn't confuse anyone. Why then are you embarrassed that Putin is solving problems in his neighboring country, as opposed to the United States, which is solving them around the world?
This is a typical argument of a fascist - because someone is a fascist, I can be too. No, the fact that Hitler or others were or are fascists is no excuse for the fascist Putin. By the way, Umberto Eco's points do not apply to the USA. USA is a world power and does many things wrong from my point of view, but USA is not a fascist regime. Putin's Russia is. Putin does not solve problems with the neighbouring country. Putin OVERFLOWS neighbouring countries. He invaded Georgia (Abkhazia and North Ossetia), he illegally annexed Crimea and now he has invaded Ukraine. Just like Hitler invaded Poland. Stop seeing Putin as someone who wants something good for you. Putin has only one goal. To increase his power at your expense. Putin doesn't care about the Russians or you, he will treat you like cannon fodder just to increase his power. Open your eyes. The Germans also glorified Hitler for a very long time. Much too late they realised that he was leading Germany to ruin.
As I understand it, you are ready to justify any fascism other than Putin's. You are very selective.
I am not justifying fascism at all. I am only writing that the fact that there are other fascists is no excuse for Putin's fascism. It's as if you say - because there are many criminals, it's okay for Putin to behave like a criminal. No, it is not okay. Every criminal is bad. Bush invaded Iraq and it was just as much a crime as Putin is doing now.
By the way, Putin has no right to solve problems in neighbouring countries. That is the responsibility of the countries themselves. Or do you want the US to solve problems with US army in Russia?
Yes, I'm not against the U.S. invading Russia. They have been waiting in Russia since 1945.
I don't understand what you are getting at.
Sad truth. Thank Putin for that.
Do you have access to this website, or is it also banned in Russia? https://charter97.org/ru/news/
Here you can see how apartment blocks in Mariupol look after the attacks by Putin's army. The guy says that the reports of attacks on civilian objects are fake, that they come from Syria or somewhere else, but not from Ukraine. There may be fake photos and fake videos on the internet, but that does not mean that there are no real photos. These photos are not fakes. There are plenty of real photos and videos showing the civilian destruction caused by Putin's army. Open your eyes.
According to reports from residents of Mariupol, the Ukrainian military is using their homes to shoot at the Russian military from there. It goes without saying that these houses will be destroyed. Photos are only needed for your sympathy.
>According to reports from residents of Mariupol, Or according to Putin's propaganda lies?
I don't understand what Putin's or Ukraine's (your preferred) propaganda has to do with this? We live in the age of the internet, where you can find out directly from eyewitnesses without any propaganda if you want.
I know reports of eyewitnesses who say that there was no ukrainian military there.
Yes, I understand, that's what Ukrainian propaganda says. But eyewitnesses in Mariupol tell of the Ukrainian military shooting those who tried to leave the city. However, you can't prove it. You have your own eyewitnesses...
Yes, I understand, that's what Putins propaganda says. But eyewitnesses in Mariupol tell of the Putins military shooting those who tried to leave the city. However, you can't prove it. You have your own eyewitnesses... I hope you understand what I'm getting at.
The whole question is, when Mariupol is liberated from the Nazis, eyewitnesses will give a full account of who was shooting there and at whom.
You don't have to wait for Mariupol, there are already eyewitness reports from the areas occupied by Putin's Nazis about looting, rapes and murders. But this is not shown in Putin's propaganda media. I see that you only want to believe Putin's propaganda. Putin's propaganda will probably show jubilant people greeting the "liberators". You will believe it too. You seem to be like the Germans who supported Hitler. They also believed Goebbels propaganda. You are probably one of those Russians who do not believe that Soviet soldiers looted, raped and murdered during the Second World War. You probably want to live in the dream world where the glorious and heroic Russian Army liberates Ukraine from Nazism. Have fun in the world of lies. It is comfortable to live in the dream world in which the own army only does good and the president only wants the best for the world. I am afraid there is no point in discussing with you because you, like many Russians, do not want to see the truth. Putin's warmongering will lead Russia to ruin. At some point, Putin's lies will also be exposed in Russia. Hopefully you will live to see it. But maybe even then you will believe Putin's propaganda. After the Second World War, there were many Germans who still believed in Hitler.
I don't tend to believe any propaganda at all. Unlike you, for example. You believe only the lies projected onto the West by the Ukrainian media. But I talk to ordinary people from Donbas and Ukraine. You still haven't answered my questions, where were you all eight years when civilians were being killed in Donbas? And why do you call what is not a war a war? Ukraine has NOT declared war on Russia. Neither did Russia declare war on Ukraine and the Ukrainian people. And if anyone is to be compared to Hitler, it is President Zelensky, who is ready to fight to the last Ukrainian. It is a fact that the entire male population of Ukraine is a hostage of the AFU. As is the fact that the inhabitants of the cities are used by the Ukrainian military as human shields. And this is not Putin's propaganda. This is eyewitness testimony.
>Neither did Russia declare war on Ukraine and the Ukrainian people. No Russia did not declare war on Ukraine, Putin invaded Ukraine without a declaration of war. Have fun believing Putin's lies. End of Conversation
End of discussion, of course. Believe the lies you believe to be true.
The German Nazis did not manage to kill this man, Putin's Nazis did. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-22/holocaust-survivor-boris-romanchenko-killed-kharkiv-ukraine-war/100928144
"Ukrainian Nazis" help civilians flee Putin's "liberators"
Citizens in Kherson, "liberated" from "Ukrainian nationalists", protest against Putin's "liberators".
A shopping centre in Kiev liberated from the "Ukrainian Nazis" by Putin's heroic army. Does this show Putin's propaganda? But maybe you'll write that Ukrainian soldiers have hidden weapons in this shopping centre or they blew it up themselves.
Thanks a lot for sharing such a video. That guy always spread a lot of truth. I watched his video about the coronavirus and the pandemic and how everything was planned, and I'm sure he will mention a lot of truth in his video about Ukraine !
I would be only too glad if you watch this video.